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Do you stay inside for fear of being hit by a flying Giraffe?
or EVEN LIGHTNING?
What if you walked outside and got hit by a falling Jetplane?
in real life, these risks are theoretically POSSIBLE
but you walk outside anyway
you drive your car even though theres a RISK you might get in an accident.

The Risks involved in THIS topic are so infinitesimally SLIGHT that you can call them Negligable Risks- almost too slight to exist.

Personally i say GO FOR IT! Learn all you can- be a risk taker-
except the risk on this topic is so slight it cant even qualify as Taking a Risk

When "normal" people use the word theory they are talking about something highly speculative. When scientists talk about a theory they are talking about a concept that has been tested over and over again and has never been proved wrong.

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ok but what tells them that they are slight risks, thats what I dont understand

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The theory tells them.

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Understanding the bahavior of the factors involved
and the Properties of the factors involved

Whats the risk of you being bitten by a dog?
Whats the risk of you being bitten by a Kangaroo?
you have at least a BASIC understanding of how much contact you have with dogs- and how you act around a dog(Friendly or nervous) and can give a GUESS as to what the risk is...
you ALSO are aware of how much contact you have with kangaroos- and the fact they SELDOM BITE- they PUNCH and can give a basic guess that that risk is MUCH LOWER than the dog

To a Quantum Phycisist- with a HIGH education- they can predict with greater accuracy - as what i demonstrated in your case- with the dog and roo

Ok but where and how was this theory tested

Like with the power they will use in this colider and the explosion power how can they actually calculate it

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Do you expect me to search for every test that has ever been done to the theory of gravity, and hundreds of other theories?

Every test done in the existing colliders show it right, every observation in the sky shows it right. The fact that an apple falls to the ground shows it right.

Get a subscription of the nature magazine and other scientific papers.

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ok but how powerful will these explosions be

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The "explosion" power of two 7TeV particles is so low, you could not light a match with it. You could not even move a match.

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14 teraelectron volts = 2.24304705 × 10-6 joule

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i thought that they would need more power to do what they are doing

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you mean the power involved in running the machinery?


ALSO: allow me a moment- im looking up some Good Reading material for you BMPBMP and Dirty_G so you can have a better understanding of the technical parts..

No what I meant was that the particls at RHIC in Brookhaven were 7TeV and the CERN LHC are going to be 30 times stronger

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is 7Tev not the energy given off by the particles as thet decay after the reaction.

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and even at 7*30 TeV it still so small that the only to detect is in the instruments designed to detect such small energys.

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How can we be sure - absolutely sure - that you won't destroy the earth?

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you dont Van

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This kind of nonsense could go on forever.

*Take a deep breath
*Switch OFF the PC
*Back away from the keyboard
*Go to the library
*Read

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This is not an idea to be tossed aside lightly - it should be thrown with great force

Why do you concider this nonsense

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The particles are accelerated up to an energy equivalent of 7TeV. They can do more btw, up to 150 TeV IIRC. The higgs particle is expected to have an enegry equivalent somewhere between 117 TeV and 250 TeV. So they would have to turn it a little more than 7TeV up to find it. But usually they will operate the LHC with particles of an energy equivalent of 7TeV.
Most of the used energy used by the LHC goes into the superconducting magnets that keep the particles on track on its way around the collider. The energy to actually accelerate them is the energy they have after they have been accelerated. 2.24304705 × 10-6 joule each.

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Do you consider the idea that kicking a stone would destroy earth as nonsense? I do. This plays in the same league, it is just more difficult to grasp as we are talking about subatomic partices.

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i dont understand how u compare this to kicking a stone, when u kick a stone u hit nothing but particles a what are used to create things, so you kick a particle
into another and you create something but how do you know what

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well particle accerelators have been slamming particles together for decades now, this is just another particle and at higher energies then before.

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what do u mean for decades now

and even though this is a different particle at different speeds

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Either my english degraded because it is 1 am or your post is somehow ...
Well I hope I got your idea.

I compared it to kicking a stone because the probability destroying earth by swithing on the LHC is in the same range as when you kick a stone.
How we know that? I think we have been through this already.
How we know what we will create? Our scientific theories say so.

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No we are using the same particles. We just give them more energy.
The resulting "particle" that we want to make appear is something we have not yet "seen".

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I am out for this night. Have some good dreams. Be sure, earth will continue to exist. ;-)

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*Planet X takes a hard right turn...*

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basically that was my point and I may have been wrong with different particles.

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so why is there so much fear about this if it is like kicking a stone and why have there been two court cases by scientists to stop this

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