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...South Texas where more than 100 people are suffering from the illness...Symptoms of the disease include lesions that leave scars, the sensation of bugs crawling under the skin, and fibers that pop out of the skin... MySA
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http://www.schmoo.co.uk/morgellons.htm


Now this isn't a true CT because its a real unknown disease, but the cause is becoming a CT..some are its a secret nanobot disease that the government is trying out, and another is that its an alien parasite. Google Morgellons and check it out!

I'm hopeing its going to be something simple enough that a pill or a cream can take care of, and its origin is I'm sure natural and earth born.....but still..


Anyone have any info/theories on this new disease popping up?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQcL8RojBL4 part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4rfdQuhWTI part 2

This is a 2 part video of (i think) CNN doing a repot on the subject.


Kind of scary...I live in California.
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Well, I can't watch video on my work connection; particularly if it's remotely graphic in nature. But I did read the article. The author tries to pick an "informative" approach but I think the last paragraph really shows his (or her) bias:
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Without confirmation on the accuracy of the article, I think it's very unfair to imply that the medical profession is up to anything "sinister" or underhanded just because they won't diagnose a patient with a disease that doesn't officially exist.

They say that these "fibers" come out of the patient's skin, but apparently only when the patient is not in the doctors office. That's very suspect. If there are skin lesions that itch, and you are laying in bed scratching them, it doesn't seem unreasonable that you might find some fibers in those spots. Transversly, it's very unusual to find fibers in your bed.

I'm not saying this disease couldn't be real, but from the article I think doctors are excersizing due caution by being skeptical.
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Yea that site wasn't the most creditable but when you get a chance watch the videos, they explain more about the actual disease then the CT.

The videos show the lesions on a few of the people they interview, no one has died yet from this but one boy took his own life. The origins of this "bug" are still unknown from what i have read.

I'm still trying to find a more solid answer for this, other then the videos from CNN(on youtube..) i haven't seen a creditable source.
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Here is another article from abc news

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=2283503&page=1
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Now this isn't a true CT because its a real unknown disease [...]
It wouldn't matter if it were "true CT" because this subforum is about space- and astronomy-related CT. See topic New Change for Conspiracy Theory section: only space and astronomy.

And, it's already been discussed in topic Morgellons.
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Well, if there is an "invasion of the ET bug" CT, I would think that would fit.
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Well, if there is an "invasion of the ET bug" CT, I would think that would fit.
Oh. Sorry. I didn't, like, actually read the material. I didn't realize someone had crafted this new aspect to the old hoax disease.

If GalaxyGrunt is right about it being claimed as extraterrestrial in origin, then maybe it does belong here. GalaxyGrunt, are you actually going to advocate that, with evidence, or are you just reporting the fantasy?

(Still, others, if commenting, please focus on the space aspect in this forum. I don't think we need another discussion of this pseudo-disease in general terms.)
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Well i know a few of the theories are that it has a space origin, but the main CT is that its nanobots. I'm sorry i thought technology would be under this category, if not then by all means delete this.

http://www.iirobotics.com/content/view/325/137/

That is one of the sites claming its a form of nanobot technology if anyone is interested. Its also believed to be an ancient virus that killed in the 1600s.


**Update**

I have looked around lot of the CT sites and it seems its only looked at as a nanobot disease, the alien theory is more of a joke i guess....

Also has this "disease" been a CT for a while now? because this is the first i heard of it.
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I have looked around lot of the CT sites and it seems its only looked at as a nanobot disease, the alien theory is more of a joke i guess....
Heh. I read Engines of Creation and was talking about nanobots in '86 before many people had heard of Drexler's book. Still, I would consider a nanobot disease as unlikely as an ET disease.
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Well i know a few of the theories are that it has a space origin, but the main CT is that its nanobots. I'm sorry i thought technology would be under this category, if not then by all means delete this.
No, I don't see how just having a high-tech origin, like nanobots, would make it space- or astronomy-related.

I advise not discussing the non-space, non-astronomy aspects in this forum.

What's happened so far is unlikely to be deleted; that's not how moderators work here. If it doesn't stick strictly to space or astronomy, it might get locked, or moved to a better forum, or merged with an existing Morgellon's topic.
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Without confirmation on the accuracy of the article, I think it's very unfair to imply that the medical profession is up to anything "sinister" or underhanded just because they won't diagnose a patient with a disease that doesn't officially exist.
I have several people in my family in the medical profession. It is so hilarious that there is some sort of collusion keeping ANY type of disease or malady, alien or otherwise, secret from the public.

BTW, this page, http://www.morgellons.org/, doesn't mention anything about aliens or nanobots.

Just to prove you can't keep the kooks from chiming in:

http://www.rense.com/general71/mmor.htm

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It may not be a great mystery. The sensation experienced by alcoholics of having things crawling under their skin is quite real, experienced among more than a third of hard alcoholics, and results in some digging into their skin to find and eradicate what is actually nerve damage caused by chronic over-intoxication.

The Morgellian's syndrom may or may not be what this is, but I think it's prudent to rule out alcohol use before claiming that something else is happening.
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A woman infected with this virus has moved to this area. Some contacted my paper, concerned about a "contagion." Out of respect for the woman's privacy, we've steered clear of her and her family.
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I've always found that Morgel (var.) has always been a very friendly and quite helpful Drelb.
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It may even turn out to be a form of auto-immune disease, or a breakdown of the body's ability to ward off infection from fungii.

Don't know about the little hairs, though they may be a form of sporangium or conidiophores.

However, since Morgellons has been successfully treated with the antipsychotic medication Pimozide, which is used to treat people with delusional parasitosis, it may very well be that this is all there is to it.

The speed bump here, however, are the hairs. Apparently, they're not hair at all. Having read everything I can find on it, I suspect that it really is delusional parasitosis, compounded with fungal infections which produce sporangium. And it may not be delusional parasitosis at all, but another form of delusion which causes the patients to scratch or pick at their skin, possibly without knowing or recalling that they're doing it. It might even occur at night.

The bottom line is that the lesions/infections are real, regardless of what's causing them. Fortunately, Wiki has a very objective article on this issue, and the CDC is investigating it with an open mind in the hopes of discovering what's really going on.
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They say that these "fibers" come out of the patient's skin, but apparently only when the patient is not in the doctors office. That's very suspect. If there are skin lesions that itch, and you are laying in bed scratching them, it doesn't seem unreasonable that you might find some fibers in those spots. Transversly, it's very unusual to find fibers in your bed.
Well I caught this so late I thought I'd point it out rather than just editing it; I meant to type that it's NOT unusual to find fibers in your bed. Sounds obvious, just wanted to clarify. (my inexplicable use of the word "Transversley" also makes that original statment unclear. Shoulda been "additioinally" I dunno what i was thinking when I wrote that.)
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Now this isn't a true CT because its a real unknown disease, but the cause is becoming a CT..some are its a secret nanobot disease that the government is trying out, and another is that its an alien parasite. Google Morgellons and check it out!

I'm hopeing its going to be something simple enough that a pill or a cream can take care of, and its origin is I'm sure natural and earth born.....but still..

Anyone have any info/theories on this new disease popping up?
Yep. Reckon I have. Experienced all the symptoms, Uhm-huh.

Being the pool manager that I am, um-hum, I decided to immerse myself in some chlorine and algeaside shock-treated water, and do you know what?

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No - what?
No more morgellons.

Uhm-humh.
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Once again: this is not the place for conspiracy theories that don't involve space or astronomy.

Take the non-space non-astronomy aspects elsewhere. Thanks.

(Or could a moderator just move the topic wherever is best, or close it? I see no claims of space or astronomy connections being maintained -- and very little claim of conspiracy.)
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Yep. We are not to the nanobot stage of disease yet.


I would say it seems like an plastic/organic composite disease.
Maybe a microbe or virus learned how to grow plastic fibers.
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Some points I have noticed:

California-Davis AFB shuttle landing
Florida- Cape Kennedy-shuttle take off
Texas-Houston shuttle control
The 3 states with the most cases. This could be why there is a real or unreal ET connection.

No reported cases outside the continental USA?
I couldn't find any protein, RNA, or DNA analysis.
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Or, could it be because they are the three largest states hot enough to support the organism that causes the disease? And they don't report cases in Mexico? (Far more likely than aliens, I think.) What are the disease rates per capita?

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I couldn't find any protein, RNA, or DNA analysis.
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5-page article, "The Morgellons Mystery"
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Four years ago, Mary Leitao plucked a fiber that looked like dandelion fluff from a sore under her 2-year-old son's lip...in March of 2004, Leitao picked a name for what afflicted Drew: Morgellons disease, from an obscure, 17th century French medical article describing an illness, called the morgellons, in which black hairs emerge from the skin...
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Have we ruled out a hoax by Dr. Scholls?
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Yes:
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(Revived for news of study.)

Associated Press: U.S. to Study Bizarre Medical Condition

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Any fibers or specks that are collected will be analyzed at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, Selby said. Doctors who believe the condition is psychiatric suspect fibers are likely just threads from clothing.

The CDC has been getting more than a dozen calls a week from self-diagnosed Morgellons patients for well over a year, and was urged to investigate by U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California and others.
US Centers for Disease Control: Unexplained Dermopathy (aka "Morgellons")
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