|
| If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|||||||
| Register | FAQ | Members List | Calendar | Mark Forums Read |
![]() |
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | Display Modes |
|
||||
|
Hah! You won't have enough left over to pay the credit card... who you kidding?
__________________
The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible. Arthur C. Clarke The Brain Science Podcast |
|
||||
|
That would be The Twenty-One Balloons, by William Pene du Bois.
__________________
Gillian "Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'" "You can't erase icing." "I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!" |
|
||||
|
I think too much money can often be counterproductive.
In most areas, we don't need more money, we just need to spend it more wisely... The Gates Foundation mentioned in the OP is a good example: its main contribution is not its money, but its focus on tangible results. |
|
||||
|
I suspect the governor of the reserve bank will want to have a word with you.
Secondly, I think in the end it will bring you more sorrow than good. There is a story I heard from a friend (who knew a person, who was related...you get the idea) that big winners in casinos are allocated body guards, not in fear of them (the winners) being killed but from the "beggars". Back to OP: Firstly look after number one, me () Then all the goody fundgy stuff, you know malaria, polio, malnutrition, etc.
__________________
This whole internet thing is probably not a passing fad.-Ronald Brak While speech might be free, consequences cost.-Doodler |
|
||||
|
Depends what you mean by We and Money. The OP specifies "wealth", not currency, which makes a big difference. Some of "we" do need more wealth, others of "we" just have it in the wrong places.
__________________
"If this were play'd upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction." Shakespeare, Twelfth Night "The Mayan symbol for "book" looks a lot like a triple hamburger, but I've never seen them claiming it as proof the Mayans had Big Macs." - KaiYeves "Distance doesn’t matter much in space, where if you just start a thing off with the right kind of shove, sooner or later it will get where you want it to go." -Frederik Pohl, Mining the Oort |
|
|||
|
Quote:
![]() |
|
||||
|
You could hire New Zealand to baby sit.
__________________
In your rush to call everyone "entrenched" or closed-minded or "limited" you fail to note that the "limit" here has a very natural boundary: that point at which the evidence stops. - JayUtah Science fiction was never meant to be an educational tool. - Editor Amazing Tales |
|
||||
|
Better to just hire Russia to do your fighting, they could use the money and have a lot of out-of-work soldiers.
__________________
"If this were play'd upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction." Shakespeare, Twelfth Night "The Mayan symbol for "book" looks a lot like a triple hamburger, but I've never seen them claiming it as proof the Mayans had Big Macs." - KaiYeves "Distance doesn’t matter much in space, where if you just start a thing off with the right kind of shove, sooner or later it will get where you want it to go." -Frederik Pohl, Mining the Oort |
|
||||
|
That's the funny thing about out of work soldiers. They don't stay that way for very long.
__________________
In your rush to call everyone "entrenched" or closed-minded or "limited" you fail to note that the "limit" here has a very natural boundary: that point at which the evidence stops. - JayUtah Science fiction was never meant to be an educational tool. - Editor Amazing Tales |
|
|||
|
Quote:
is this too much politics for this forum? Am I politically incorrect here? |
|
|||
|
Birth control for the whole world, permanent sterilisation of man & woman after ONE child for every couple for the next five or ten generations, coupled with permanent sterilisation of all childless people as a 21st birthday "gift".. The Chinese to supervise it under German/Japanese/American/Russian/Indian expertise & direction. The Chinese have their own expertise in this & would not worry about being accused of "slow genocide" or anything else for that matter.
Might need Korjik's army to help them though. Korjik -- would you let the North Koreans train your army? |
|
||||
|
Quote:
![]() |
|
|||
|
Quote:
You could pay people to sterilize themselves, but to force it on people would mean war, and even with 65 trillion in the war chest, as usual it would probably one that no one wins. |
|
|||
|
Quote:
btw the population of England was 4.8 million in 1570 according to Wikipedia, someone said it was only 3m. By "real wealth", I presume you mean items you could exchange with foreigners for things of real values. If it was just money, it would be just like the local bank printing it, and would cause hyper-inflation. So it could be like hitting oil. But even if it isn't just money, if you bring a large quantity of wealth into a country, I think it has to cause some inflation. The quantity of locally produced goods and services remains the same, and as you add in the large quantity of externally produced goods (which is what you exchange the wealth for) it is bound to increase the relative value for locally produced goods to imports. The consequence is what economists call "Dutch disease", ie, unemployment as locally produced exports become too expensive. Hence there are generally high prices in oil economies, (excluding those where the value of the oil is stolen by a small elite and placed in Swiss bank accounts.) I suggest this should be moved to Off-Topic Babbling. Last edited by Ivan Viehoff; 19-February-2008 at 11:37 AM.. Reason: misprinted the number |
|
||||
|
Quote:
At the quantities discussed here, the first would just ruin the economy even faster. |
|
||||
|
Quote:
![]() |
|
||||
|
I´d found an enlightened dictatorship. A scientist-philosopher government. No more stupidity. The masses would be educated by force [force, not violence].
How? No idea... ![]()
__________________
What brings us together is stronger than what pulls us apart |
|
||||
|
Quote:
Or, faint hope, were you being tongue-in-cheek?
__________________
Gillian "Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'" "You can't erase icing." "I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!" |
|
|||
|
Quote:
You will never solve the world's problems without birth control. My Rx was purposely radical to get people to stop & think. As far as childbearing is concerned, the best years for it for a woman are from about 17 to 25. The question of providing "enough" for the children is purely cultural. Most of the world would say we take too much for ourselves & our children as it is. |
|
|||
|
Quote:
Yes I'm just as selfish as the next man, or maybe more so, but I know what I'm talking about, first hand. Hell is paved with good intentions. |
|
||||
|
Quote:
![]() My fellow contrymen are leaving the US 'en masse', thanks to things getting brighter down here. ![]()
__________________
What brings us together is stronger than what pulls us apart |
|
|||
|
Quote:
My fellow countrymen have overrun Britain, straining Britain"s social resources very seriuosly, have surpassed the Jamaicans in rates of serious crime ,& are hoping to gain visa-free entry to the US. Read the British press on line, almost any day. |
|
||||
|
Quote:
Time to say so long, and thanks for all the fish. ![]()
__________________
What brings us together is stronger than what pulls us apart |
|
||||
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
And, no, saying there's no biological "providing enough" for children is ridiculous. And that most of the world is only thinking of, well, those who have the ability to provide all that for their children in the first place. It doesn't take into account those children in the US who don't have enough to eat, enough medical care, enough warm clothing. Those children are forgotten about, and they are overwhelmingly born to mothers who gave birth before age 21.
__________________
Gillian "Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'" "You can't erase icing." "I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!" |
|
||||
|
Economically speaking, that's not necessarily a bad thing. There will always be a need for unskilled labor. By Ricardo's theory of comparative advantage, the greatest benefit will be obtained by importing their unskilled labor instead of producing our own.
__________________
“There’s nothing that spells progress in large, friendly letters like trying to combine two totally incompatible technologies.” – David Szondy, Tales of Future Past. |
|
|||
|
Quote:
But just what form of wealth worth 65 trillion might be realistic? Or at least more realistic than peanut paste? Perhaps a space ship could discover alien technology and the patents resulting from reverse engineering it might be worth 65 trillion? Which is an awful lot. Thanks providing a figure on England's population. The one I used for my back of the envelope calculation of England's GDP was just an estimate. However, I think your figure might be for Great Britain and not just England. Last edited by Ronald Brak; 20-February-2008 at 02:20 AM.. |
|
|||
|
Quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition To summarize, as countries industrialize, their death rates drop resulting in a large increase in population, but then their birth rates drop, eventually leading to population declines, as in Japan and some other countries. Every developed country in the world currently has a birth rate below the replacement rate. As an example of the demographic transition in action, my sister has one child, my mother had three, and my grandmother had seven. The faster a country passes through the demographic transition, the lower its maximum population will be. Malaria kills up to three million people a year, but half a billion suffer from it. This suffering is a massive drain on the economy. It prevents people working and children from being educated. It slows the rate at which countries industrialize and go through the demographic transition. So erradicating malaria is likely to lead to lower populations in the longer term than letting it simply continue to kill people and make them suffer. |
![]() |
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
| Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| Drake Equation - a different perspective? | SILVER5 | Against the Mainstream | 6 | 11-March-2004 07:53 PM |
| The Drake Equation | BigJim | Life in Space | 39 | 04-March-2004 06:12 PM |
| Francis Wheen - "How Mumbo-Jumbo Conquered the World... | kylenano | Small Media at Large | 3 | 17-February-2004 09:32 AM |