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Or for hydrogen if that "hydrogen economy" thingy ever takes off.
![]() Edited to add: Of course milliHindenburgs (mHb) would be more likely for billing purposes.
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Unh, unh, unh!
This is a science board and we use SI-style units here! So there's hindenburgs (Hb) and millihindenburgs (mHb) and microhindenburgs (muHb) and kilohindenburgs (kHb), etc., etc., but no humanities. (Hmmm ... ? )This little off-topic balloon excursion has really taken off. Time to deflate this one and get back to the topic!
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I estimate that a humanity contains 23,880,434,783 kilograms of hydrogen.
Figures subject to change over time.
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Forgive my denseness, I'm trying to understand this in lay fashion.:
They were increasing power in the affected section. At a certain point in the power increase, resistance developed due to a badly soldered connection? The resistance was detected and safety systems attempted to reduce power but for some reason an arc occured?(I really don't understand this part but my knowledge of electricity is essentially nil) The arc punctured a line/vessel containing liquid helium allowing it to boil off into areas of vacuum? The liquid helium boiled off/expanded so violently that it moved/shifted/caused physical damage to large structures in proximity of the arc, in spite of safety valves trying to reduce the pressure? The flowing helium carried soot and debris from the arc into neighboring areas of the LHC?
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From what I have read the connection was at very low temperature to make use of superconductivity. The arc heated the connection and brought the material in the joint above the point of superconductivity.
Due to current flowing through the 7500 amperes heated the connection and surrounds before the backup system could dump the charge. So and there was a rapid rise in temperature. I do not know the voltage but for the electric trains in Perth it is 6000 amperes at 25000 volts. Each magnet is supplied an enormous amount of power to generate the field to control the beam line. Magnets have exploded at other particle accelerators in initialization runs so it is not a new phenomena. What is new is the sheer scale of how much more powerful the CERN particle accelerator will eventually be. As a note of interest in the universe today column some new unexplained physics with muons outside the beam line were discovered some months back by the Fermilab scientists at TeVatron link Physorg article. |
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From BBC: Collider 'needs warning system'
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Wow, that's some major damage.
I guess the helium leak had quite a bit of force behind it to cause that much damage to such huge and heavy piece(s) of equipment. No holiday breaks for those engineers.
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I assume it means, air leaking into the vacuum. It sure sounds like some of that vacuum leaked out into the air!
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It's like when someone opens the darkroom door and lets out all the dark.
(OK, kids, all together now: "What's a darkroom, old timer?") Fred
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I was about to say, "Duh--they use one in Freaky Friday." But then I remembered the remake.
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Darkroom--those come from the fact that you better not remove your SanDisk card from your camera before filling it up, or all the pictures on it will fade away.
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Apparently some researchers are suggesting that if the LHC produces the Higgs boson particle the results may include a time reversal such that the LHC is prevented from producing the particle in the first place.
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Yes, Analog of August 1977. The title comes from Frank Tipler's 1974 paper of the same name in Physical Review D.
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http://user.web.cern.ch/user/news/2009/091026.html
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If this is a joke, it's fooled a lot of news organizations:
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