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Old 14-November-2008, 03:23 PM
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Thought this was neat. I am surpised that there is not more dark green in the United States.

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Thought this was neat. I am surpised that there is not more dark green in the United States.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25292466...ramenumber/24/
It makes perfect sense to me taking in account that the map was done in April. That time of year the breadbasket of the states is being plowed under to become dirt. If not, there might only be some early sprouts.

I'd like to see how it compares to other months when the corn is as high as an elephant's eye.
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Thought this was neat. I am surpised that there is not more dark green in the United States.
Thanks Meg. I have to say that the US looks ok to me, but then again I'm not a farmer. Australia's the one that looks sad.
I didn't know what 'leaf area index' was actually. Here's the wiki link if there are any others in the same boat: Leaf Area Index.

EDIT: Oh wait, you said dark green, not just green. Well, from your link, dark green = thick forest. Don't think the US ever had that much forest, did it? I may be wrong.
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It makes perfect sense to me taking in account that the map was done in April. That time of year the breadbasket of the states is being plowed under to become dirt. If not, there might only be some early sprouts.

I'd like to see how it compares to other months when the corn is as high as an elephant's eye.
I agree, I would like to see the middle of August in the US, but I was thinking more of the dark green that indicates thick forest canopies.

August would be Winter in Australia. They may have chose April because it would be either Spring or Fall?
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Thanks Meg. I have to say that the US looks ok to me, but then again I'm not a farmer. Australia's the one that looks sad.
I didn't know what 'leaf area index' was actually. Here's the wiki link if there are any others in the same boat: Leaf Area Index.

EDIT: Oh wait, you said dark green, not just green. Well, from your link, dark green = thick forest. Don't think the US ever had that much forest, did it? I may be wrong.
Your edit worked. Thanks for the link.
Yes, more then it is now. Florida's native trees the Slash Pine and Cabbage Palm are cut down for development like someone were mowing their lawn.
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Well, that depends. It used to have a lot more back east, and it used to have a lot more in the Northwest, at least, but the vast swathes of the center of the country never did. In fact, it used to be called the Great American Desert, and settlers hurried over it as quickly as possible to get to the supposedly more fertile lands out west.
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I agree, I would like to see the middle of August in the US, but I was thinking more of the dark green that indicates thick forest canopies.
But, even in forested areas, at least in Ohio, in April we are just starting to have the leaves come out (and there is a big difference between the start of April and the end).
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But, even in forested areas, at least in Ohio, in April we are just starting to have the leaves come out (and there is a big difference between the start of April and the end).
Yes, the immature leaflets would not denote a canopied forest probably.

I lived in Pennsylvania for 18 years, a beautiful state with many state parks and deep forests. I would never have left if it were not for a job transfer.

Ohio was our neighbor, but unfortunately we never traveled there, could have taken a transfer to Lima, OH. at one time too. Declined because I was young and stupid, but I remember the transferees talking a lot about bowling?
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Thought this was neat. I am surpised that there is not more dark green in the United States.
Found a close up for you from the NASA page.

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Well, that depends. It used to have a lot more back east, and it used to have a lot more in the Northwest, at least, but the vast swathes of the center of the country never did. In fact, it used to be called the Great American Desert, and settlers hurried over it as quickly as possible to get to the supposedly more fertile lands out west.
Found an interesting diagram about changes in forest cover. I've placed it in my following post as it's quite big.

The diagram shows a trend reversal in deforestation in the Eastern U.S. coming into this century. This might be a general pattern. When the process of industrialisation is in full swing; as in China now, or in the U.S. at the turn of last century, the environment gets neglected. As the country becomes industrialised, some of the worst excesses of the development process are slowly removed.

These are of course historical estimates, and so should be taken with a pinch of salt, and the path each country takes is different; but maybe on a global scale, things will slowly improve. Let's hope.
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Distributions of average peak-season leaf area index (LAI) estimated for (a) 1650, (b) 1850, (c) 1920, and (d) 1992 time slices.

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Found a close up for you from the NASA page.
Thanks, great link.
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