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Old 06-July-2009, 01:12 AM
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I am looking for a comprehensive listing of the different kinds and topics of both engineering and science. What I need is a list of engineering fields and the sciences broken down into their respective disciplines. I have tried multiple options including wikipedia and MIT but none of their listings is what I am looking for. I would appreciate any help you can give me.

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Greetings and Felicitations,

I am looking for a comprehensive listing of the different kinds and topics of both engineering and science. What I need is a list of engineering fields and the sciences broken down into their respective disciplines. I have tried multiple options including wikipedia and MIT but none of their listings is what I am looking for. I would appreciate any help you can give me.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely
Well, you've told what you are not looking for, but not quite what it is you are looking for. Obviously, you know every college has a curriculum listing. There is a long history of classification, from Ramus to Roget to Melvil Dewey to Buckminster Fuller. No one quite agrees on all the fundamentals, but universities maintain close specifications.
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Greetings and Felicitations,

I am looking for a comprehensive listing of the different kinds and topics of both engineering and science. What I need is a list of engineering fields and the sciences broken down into their respective disciplines. I have tried multiple options including wikipedia and MIT but none of their listings is what I am looking for. I would appreciate any help you can give me.

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Welcome to BAUT Dave,

This is a very good question and I hope others can only add to my distinctions---

As a Bachelors Chemist/technician -- I have worked on research and with engineers on projects in industry.

As a Research "Chemist-technician"--I was asked to "explore" aspects of nature that could be exploited for profit. Once the discovery was made and data recorded and conclusion verified. The finding was passed onto Development "Chemists" who are assigned to see if the discovery could be further developed --or scaled to a proportions of chemical plant proportions. Afterward, if successful, research engineers try to further develop the "discovery" to scales of "pilot plant" proportions. If that is successful, then chemical engineers are to develop the discovery to full plant proportions...

There are many aspects to the marketing of a scientific discovery for profit that I have purposely left out --I worked on proprietary projects and for those who may have worked similar types of projects...it is important that your competitors don't get a wind of your discovery or work -- (e.g. once I had left my place of employment-- I had learned that one of the projects that I helped to "pretty-much" spearhead was beaten to patent rights --just barely). Anyway that is water under the bridge...

In terms of disciplines: mostly PhD scientist are used to initiate projects and mostly secure their funding -- the M.S. and B.S. scientist technicians do most of the lab work-- for the most part.
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Well, you've told what you are not looking for, but not quite what it is you are looking for. Obviously, you know every college has a curriculum listing. There is a long history of classification, from Ramus to Roget to Melvil Dewey to Buckminster Fuller. No one quite agrees on all the fundamentals, but universities maintain close specifications.
I tried using curriculum listings but the way they are organized requires going through page after page while copying and pasting.

I realize that I should have been more specific. I need a categorized listing of the sciences and a categorized listing of the engineering disciplines. I am trying to find a way to decently organize my bookmarks to provide easier referencing.

I forgot about the Dewey Decimal system but did not realize that Fuller had created a list. Do you perhaps have a link where I can find his divisions?

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This wikipedia article on Fields of Science, seems to have a good list of sciences.

And from that article, this seems like a pretty good list of Engineering disciplines.
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I tried using curriculum listings but the way they are organized requires going through page after page while copying and pasting.

I realize that I should have been more specific. I need a categorized listing of the sciences and a categorized listing of the engineering disciplines. I am trying to find a way to decently organize my bookmarks to provide easier referencing.

I forgot about the Dewey Decimal system but did not realize that Fuller had created a list. Do you perhaps have a link where I can find his divisions?

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That wasn't exactly an honest statement of mine, sorry. I was trying to think of a name in the past century who might have had an innovative approach to the classification of science and technology fields. I remembered reading in a book titled Education Automation that Fuller helped in the design of a school in the Midwest (Southern Illinois University Edwardsville). I just pulled it off the shelf:

"Quite early it became apparent that problems of financing, design, aesthetics, procedure, timing, objectives, community services, zoning, access, parking, social philosophy, and instructional methods were so intertwined that the usual advice of technicians would have to be supplemented by the thinking of highly creative people experienced in educational and architectural planning ..
Mr Fuller's talk to the planning commitee, East St Louis, April 22, 1961, was startling and rare because of its profound comprehensiveness."
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Greetings and Felicitations,

First, thanks for the help.

These are my results so far. This has been a subject that has concerned me for a while due to numerous projects I am working on.

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Philosophy of Science
>> Logic
>> Critical Thinking
>> Scientific Methodology


Astronomy
>> Cosmology
>>>> Stellar Cosmology
>>>> Planetary Cosmology
>>>>>> Planetary Geology
>>>>>> Atmospherics
>>>>>> Magnetospherics
>>>> Small Body Cosmology
>> Radio Astronomy
>> Infrared Astronomy
>> Optical Astronomy
Photometry
Spectroscopy
Astrometry
>> Gamma-ray Astronomy
>> Neutrino Astronomy
>> Astrophysics
>> Astrochemistry
>> Astrobiology

Chemistry
>> Organic Chemistry
>> Inorganic Chemistry
>> Analytical Chemistry
>> Physical Chemistry
>> Nuclear Chemistry
>> Materials Chemistry
>> Geochemistry
>> Chromatography
>> Electrochemistry
>> Spectroscopy
>> Biochemistry

Physics
>> Acoustics
>> Mechanics
>> Electrodynamics
>> Thermodynamics
>> Quantum Physics
>> Special Relativity
>> General Relativity
>> Solid State Physics
>> High Energy Physics
>> Nuclear Physics
>> Particle Physics
>> String Physics
>> Statics
>> Dynamics

Biology
>> Taxonomy
>> Molecular Biology
>> Protistology
>> Microbiology
>>>> Mycology
>>>> Virology
>>>> Bacteriology
>>>> Parasitology
>>>> Cytology
>>>> Histology
>> Botany
>>>> Plant Physiology
>>>> Plant Genetics
>>>> Agronomy
>>>> Horticulture
>>>> Agriculture
>> Zoology
>>>> Invertebrate Zoology
>>>>>> Arachnology
>>>>>> Arthropodology
>>>>>> Entomology
>>>>>> Carcinology
>>>>>> Malacology
>>>> Verterbrate Zoology
>>>>>> Mammalogy
>>>>>> Ornithology
>>>>>> Herpetology
>>>>>> Ichthyology
>>>>>> Primatology
>> Immunology
>>>> Parasitology
>>>> Pathology
>>>> Bioclimatology
>>>> Bioinformatics
>>>> Biogeography
>>>> Ecology
>>>> Evolutionary Biology

Earth Sciences
>> Geology
>>>> Geography
>>>> Geomorphology
>>>> Mineralogy
>>>> Seismology
>> Aerology
>>>> Climatology
>>>> Meteorology
>> Aeronomy
>> Hydrology
>>>> Limnology
>>>> Oceanography
>>>> Hydrography
>> Paleontology

Engineering
>> Aerospace Engineering
>> Bioengineering
>> Chemical Engineering
>> Civil Engineering
>> Computer Engineering
>> Electrical Engineering
>> Engineering Drafting
>> Engineering Physics
>> Genetics Engineering
>> Materials Engineering
>> Mechanical Engineering
>> Mechatronics Engineering
>> Software Engineering
I am sure that there is a better form of arrangement. Any hints and additions would be appreciated.

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Looks pretty good to my eye. You might look into
Optical Engineering
Human Factors Engineering and Ergonomics
Modeling and Simulation
Industrial and Systems Engineering and Communications Engineering
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Looks pretty good to my eye. You might look into
Optical Engineering
Human Factors Engineering and Ergonomics
Modeling and Simulation
Industrial and Systems Engineering and Communications Engineering
Adding ergonomic engineering is a great fit. Modelling and simulation would be covered by Engineering drafting.

From what I can tell Industrial and systems engineering are pretty much synonymous so I am adding it under systems engineering.

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Under "Philosophy of Science", I have sometimes seen History of Science as a category, but I personally don't have strong feelings about this.

I see you have left out all the "soft" sciences, such as Anthropology, Archeology, Economics, Psychology, and Sociology.
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Looking at the "biology" category (for which I am more familiar), it looks as if there is a mixture of disciplines that are categorized by subject matter (e.g., plant biology, or micobiology) or by technical expertise (e.g., molecular biology, or bioinformatics). A researcher might well consider herself a plant biologist because of her subject matter; she might also be regarded as a geneticist, a molecular biologist, or a biochemist (which is a biological discipline as mush as it is a chemistry one) depending on what kind of experiments she does on plants. Similar issues appear in the "chemistry" division; e.g., spectroscopy and chromatography are descriptions of techniques, and ones also commonly used by people describing themselves as biochemists.

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Under "Philosophy of Science", I have sometimes seen History of Science as a category, but I personally don't have strong feelings about this.

I see you have left out all the "soft" sciences, such as Anthropology, Archeology, Economics, Psychology, and Sociology.
Thank you pointing that out. I hadn't even realized that I forgot those sections. Fault me for being a computer junkie and ignoring the social sciences.


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Looking at the "biology" category (for which I am more familiar), it looks as if there is a mixture of disciplines that are categorized by subject matter (e.g., plant biology, or micobiology) or by technical expertise (e.g., molecular biology, or bioinformatics). A researcher might well consider herself a plant biologist because of her subject matter; she might also be regarded as a geneticist, a molecular biologist, or a biochemist (which is a biological discipline as mush as it is a chemistry one) depending on what kind of experiments she does on plants. Similar issues appear in the "chemistry" division; e.g., spectroscopy and chromatography are descriptions of techniques, and ones also commonly used by people describing themselves as biochemists.

Nick
This started as a project to organize my bookmarks so I tend to think in terms of interest rather than personal relevance (career). My eventual goal is to convert this to XML and post in on a webpage so I can access my bookmarks anywhere.

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Adding ergonomic engineering is a great fit. Modelling and simulation would be covered by Engineering drafting.

From what I can tell Industrial and systems engineering are pretty much synonymous so I am adding it under systems engineering.
Good that I could be of a little help. Yeah, I wasn't certain whether you were considering the social sciences and historical studies either, but figured they didn't apply in this case.

Mod&Sim definitely is not covered under drafting, though. It usually applies to creating theoretical models of a system, making up statistical metrics and data formats, constructing a computer simulation, performing the simulation, analyzing results that they are consistent and as expected, then comparing them to reality in full analysis. It is a sort of meta-study in that it doesn't really define what the subject matter is, but sometimes the same model might apply to multiple real-world systems.
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jaksichj wrote " Welcome to BAUT Dave,

This is a very good question and I hope others can only add to my distinctions---

As a Bachelors Chemist/technician -- I have worked on research and with engineers on projects in industry.

As a Research "Chemist-technician"--I was asked to "explore" aspects of nature that could be exploited for profit. Once the discovery was made and data recorded and conclusion verified. The finding was passed onto Development "Chemists" who are assigned to see if the discovery could be further developed --or scaled to a proportions of chemical plant proportions. Afterward, if successful, research engineers try to further develop the "discovery" to scales of "pilot plant" proportions...."



Sorry about that previous post-- but I thought that it might give you some intuitive feel for some of the divisions in a field like chemistry...

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I found the concept of "Engineering is applied physics" to fit other disciplines. I dunno if this would help. It helped me with a soft science to realize that "politics is applied communications".
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dmoz is probably the most extensive categorization around.

Keep in mind that many categories have subcategories.

Engineering

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