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No, even thinking of how things were in 1999, I'm still calling, "Well, duh!"
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I don't take Ray Kurzweil seriously. He has come up with too many non-sequiturs. Just because the size of my kitten has doubled over the last three months doesn't mean that after ten years it will be the size of the galaxy. However, I do agree with the general idea that the pace of technological improvement is increasing and we will eventually get to a point where it is just silly or what Kurzweil calls the singularity. I'm just not quite as optimistic about the timing. I think that at best we will only advance half as fast as he thinks we will, pushing back the date of the singularity by months.
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but none of the forecasts were terribly insightful in 1999 ... no more so than "wars in the 21st Century will be fought over control of water supplies, and not just oil" (can't remember who said that ...)
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If Kurzweil predicted society and technology as well as you seem to imply, he could buy Bill Gates 10 times over.
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I would also agree that those prognostications are pretty mild, incremental forecasts. It's easy to see ten years ahead, harder to see twenty and 50+ ... forgetaboutit!
But Kurzweil has made far more outlandish predictions, like living for ever (in his lifetime) and geometric progression of intelligence which he calls the singularity. We we all be replaced by super intelligent artificial general intelligences (AGI). There is a singularity summit every year where various futurists and AGI developers get together and talk about this stuff. I've been following it for a few years now, and it is rather fascinating. Here are some links to the 2008 summit speeches (2007).
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Nothing about smart phones, web based social networking, things like You Tube or Google Earth - things that really are remarkable developments in the last 10 years. |
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My feelings about Kurzweil's predictions have always been mixed; for every one he gets right he overlooks or underestimates another. His predictions not only ignore the (IMO) zero progress we've made towards AI (which I'm skeptical of ever achieving, anyway) and cyborg technology, but also a powerful technological inertia that puts the brakes on possible breakthroughs.
For instance, there's been a lot of serious talk about replacing the standard commercial plane design with flying wings, which is the most efficient model. Yet, none of these prognostications gives target dates before the 2030s, even though if we *wanted* to we could go full-bore towards this target much sooner. As for cybernetic technology: it's one thing to enjoy your Bluetooth, quite another to submit to accessing the Internet through a cortical implant. OnStar is one thing, letting your car drive you is another (and think of the liability mess if there's an accident!). In sum: there seems to always be a huge gap between the possible and the probable, even when the latter is within reach. I'd be very surprised to see the least of Kurzweil's most extravagant predictions come true before mid-century.
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He did express interest in creating massive virtual environments to make an artistic/political statement. |
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no argument there, BD - I simply broadened the definitions "wars" of "army" from that implied in the OP's comment - cold, economic and trade wars, for instance ...
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So far as I understand, there's a difference between cyborg and cybernetic, and I'd argue that we've made a great deal of progress in cyborg technology if you include prosthesis in that.
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cyborg is a contraction of cybernetic organism ...
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Check out this talk on Hierarchical Temporal Memory (HTM) as a basis for a new AI paradigm, presented by Jeff Hawkins - fascinating stuff.
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That was my spontaneous thought after having glanced through the list. Well, actually while still glancing through the list.
I'm sure anybody here could come up will an analogous list for 2019.
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Seems simple when you put it out in the open like that.
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Flying wings are nothing to look at, but they are the most fuel-efficient design possible; as well all know, the airline industry is notorious at bean-counting. It has its own problems, to be sure, but the allure has tempted commercial engineers for a long time.
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Does anyone else remember a TV show from Fox called VR5? It would have aired in about '95 or so--I could look it up, but I'm feeling lazy. It was on in the death hour before The X-Files, when The X-Files aired on Fridays at nine. It made some interesting speculations about virtual reality, hence the title, really.
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Since I have had long contact with Amish and Mennonites (many of my mother's family are Mennonites, and growing up in small-town Pennsylvania, I couldn't avoid contact with Amish people), I must take exception to your characterization of them as Luddites. Luddites destroyed technology, the Mennonites, and to a greater extent the Amish, simply don't use it.
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Re Gillianren:
I remember VR 5, that surreal relic of the days when it looked like immersive virtual reality was going to be the wave of the future (remember that travesty titled The Lawnmower Man?).
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You mean the charming short story that doesn't mention VR at all? Because the movie you seem to be mentioning doesn't exist!
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If Kurzweil is thinking of ELF types, then they have been around for a while.
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I meant "The Lawnmower Man" versus the movie Stephen King sued to get his name taken off of, but thanks for the link, which I was too lazy to find myself.
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