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Old 07-October-2004, 11:58 AM
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Maybe Ron Howard will release a special "Extended Director's Edition" like Peter Jackson did with the first two LOTRs. A special 7 hour edition.
I would like more backstory of what caused the accident, referencing the Apollo 10 incident and the CDDT.

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And just for fun: THERE'S NO SOUND IN SPACE!!! :wink:
And neither are the stars visible.
Actually the stars are visible, if there's no bright object in your astronaut-eye's field-of-view causing your pupil to dilate.
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One that struck me - a raised thumb at arm's length is shown to cover the moon exactly. I remember learning (from my constellations book when I was 13) that one should use one's little finger.

Of course, the raised thumb has a distinctly positive meaning which makes it a better choice than the little finger.
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Guenter Wendt was up in the white room the whole time and not in the suit fitting room.
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Guenter Wendt was up in the white room the whole time and not in the suit fitting room.
So that's where Guenter wendt!
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One thing that bothered me - the exhaust plume in most of the launch shots isn't long enough. It should be several times the length of the rocket itself. They also don't show shock waves creating momentary rings of condensation around the rocket, or recirculated exhaust climbing halfway up the first stage just before staging.
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The markings on the Saturn V are those of the test vehicle, not the ones actually launched.
I hate to nitpick your nitpick, but I'm not so sure about this one. I watched the IMAX trailer here, and compared it to the info I found here, and to first order the movie rocket looks like the flight vehicles to me(specifically the fourth stage skirt roll patern and first stage intertank paint). Anyone else want to weigh in on this?

The reason this caught my attention is that my uncle accused me of the same error with my Estes Saturn 5 model and I had to go back and verify that I was right. While it's true that the test vehicle had more roll markings, they all had a significant amount of them.
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The markings on the Saturn V are those of the test vehicle, not the ones actually launched.
I hate to nitpick your nitpick, but I'm not so sure about this one. I watched the IMAX trailer here, and compared it to the info I found here, and to first order the movie rocket looks like the flight vehicles to me(specifically the fourth stage skirt roll patern and first stage intertank paint). Anyone else want to weigh in on this?
Flight vehicle - solid band at top of third stage

Test vehicle - solid band at or near base of service module, intermittent band at top of third stage, solid band at base of third stage, solid band at top of vertical stripes on first stage

Apollo 13 movie - intermittent band at top of third stage, solid band at base of third stage. First stage and service module look okay, though.
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Okay, so they only got the third stage wrong. I guess that's somewhere between our two original posts. I enjoyed looking at all the Saturn 5 pictures, even if I only partly managed to correct your claim. The site I found indicated that they used a Saturn IB for the test vehicle, so maybe that's how they got tripped up on the movie. They may have used IB photos for the third stage rather than a flight Saturn V. Since the flight vehicles all looked pretty much the same, though, and there's so many pictures of them, it's hard to imagine how they could have messed this up. Maybe they just thought the IB paint looked better?
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Okay, so they only got the third stage wrong. I guess that's somewhere between our two original posts. I enjoyed looking at all the Saturn 5 pictures, even if I only partly managed to correct your claim. The site I found indicated that they used a Saturn IB for the test vehicle, so maybe that's how they got tripped up on the movie. They may have used IB photos for the third stage rather than a flight Saturn V. Since the flight vehicles all looked pretty much the same, though, and there's so many pictures of them, it's hard to imagine how they could have messed this up. Maybe they just thought the IB paint looked better?
I don't know, but there was definitely a Saturn V test vehicle. I don't know why they'd use a IB as the basis for anything.
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My nit picks:

1) Jim Lovel is/was not as good looking as Tom Hanks.
2) Marilyn Lovel is/was NOWHERE NEAR as pretty as Kathleen Quinlan. But you won't find me complaining about that. :wink:
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The funny thing is, Kevin Costner was originally slated to play Jim Lovell, who, at least in 1994, was almost a dead ringer for Lovell....
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My nit picks:

1) Jim Lovel is/was not as good looking as Tom Hanks.
2) Marilyn Lovel is/was NOWHERE NEAR as pretty as Kathleen Quinlan. But you won't find me complaining about that. :wink:
That's your contribution? To make such shallow comments about a legend?
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My nit picks:

1) Jim Lovel is/was not as good looking as Tom Hanks.
2) Marilyn Lovel is/was NOWHERE NEAR as pretty as Kathleen Quinlan. But you won't find me complaining about that. :wink:
That's your contribution? To make such shallow comments about a legend?
To quote Ronald Regan: "Now there ya go again...."

There is this new concept called: "Theater of the Absurd Humor" You will note that I engage in it alot. It's only been in use for 2500 to 3000 years so you may not have "glommed" onto it yet. (yes, the pun is intentional and an example)

The point of humor is the fact that, what Jim & Marilyn Lovel look like is totally, completely and "absurdly" irrelevant, both to the movie and this discussion.

Why am I explaining this???? :roll: :-? 8)
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My nit picks:

1) Jim Lovel is/was not as good looking as Tom Hanks.
2) Marilyn Lovel is/was NOWHERE NEAR as pretty as Kathleen Quinlan. But you won't find me complaining about that. :wink:
That's your contribution? To make such shallow comments about a legend?
To quote Ronald Regan: "Now there ya go again...."

There is this new concept called: "Theater of the Absurd Humor" You will note that I engage in it alot. It's only been in use for 2500 to 3000 years so you may not have "glommed" onto it yet. (yes, the pun is intentional and an example)

The point of humor is the fact that, what Jim & Marilyn Lovel look like is totally, completely and "absurdly" irrelevant, both to the movie and this discussion.

Why am I explaining this???? :roll: :-? 8)
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'Cause it's Absurd?
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One that struck me - a raised thumb at arm's length is shown to cover the moon exactly. I remember learning (from my constellations book when I was 13) that one should use one's little finger.

Of course, the raised thumb has a distinctly positive meaning which makes it a better choice than the little finger.
Tom Hanks' thumb should have cast a shadow onto his eye. In the movie, we are shown Hanks' thumb covering the moon as if we were looking through his eyes. Then when the shot cuts to us looking at Hanks, there is no shadow on his eye. The shadow of Hanks' entire hand can actually be seen on and above his shoulder [on the chair back.]
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I could be wrong, but when they are showing the Saturn V inside the assembly building there seems to be a worrying lack of any kind of scaffold supporting it. Since they are showing the stacking of the third stage/interstage onto the completed first/second stage, shouldn't there be a platform around the rocket so the workers can come along and complete the mating (I'm sure I saw such a platform in the quarterly film reports and stacking footage on the Spacecraft Films Saturn V DVD set)? Instead they just leave the third stage sitting on top, apparently loose. I wouldn't like to try lifting off on that!
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Instead they just leave the third stage sitting on top, apparently loose. I wouldn't like to try lifting off on that!
Well, as long as you're accelerating, you should be ok!
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Well, as long as you're accelerating, you should be ok!
Should make POGO interesting.
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Well, as long as you're accelerating, you should be ok!
Should make POGO interesting.
And staging even more so.
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