That Jedi story is just a myth. Like Santa Claus. Or beer destroying brain cells.

http://www.snopes.com/religion/jedi.htm

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Odd that a myth like that would be put up on The Learning Channel website. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img]

Thanks for keeping me straight. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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This Jedi thing may have started as an urban legend, but many Australians took it to heart.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2218456.stm

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Well, on TV and in the movies they always send a couple of the grunts to take down James Bond, or a solitary jeep to blow up Superman, or something like that. And James Bond/Superman always wins. Obviously Vader realised that when you're dealing with the hero, there's no such thing as overkill. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

Someone said that you could chuck the asteroid at the shield generator instead of the Death Star to bring down the shield (to presumably chuck another asteroid at the DS). But Endor was protected by the shield generator as well - that's why Han has to ask for the shield to be disabled so they can land on the moon.

Anyway, blowing up the shield generator was a bad idea - now all those cute ewoks will be killed by DS debris...

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That's probably why the VSD got whacked. I don't remember that scene very well, but it would seem to me that in flying through that asteroid field, the shields were probably taking a lot of punishment. Chances are, that one just managed to overload the shields and slip through.

But there's also a difference in shield strength between the Star Destroyers and the Death Star. Pounding a SD with asteroids would probably eventually disrupt the shields, but the deflector shields on the DS were probably planetary class in strength, able to take just about anything you could conceivably throw at them.

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I think there's a general consensus at sites like stardestroyer.net that the ship that was hit by the asteroid probably had its bridge deflectors down, while they were communicating with Vader.

I'm also under the impression that the globes atop the bridge towers were not shield generators, but perhaps had sensor or communications functions. I mean, other ships that have deflector shields don't have similar objects mounted on their hull, and the Executor super star destroyer had not just the two on top of the bridge, but *eight* such globes around the dorsal superstructure.

Also, those were Imperator class star destroyers in ESB. Victory class destroyers have more antenna arrays on their towers, and side fairings on the hull:




-Adam

Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

(Touch of envy in tone)

You guys waste your time in the most interesting ways.

(Goes back to painting 1/300 scale model tank)

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Conrad,
If you want to paint minis *and* discuss the fictional quality of Sci-Fi spacecraft (Babylon 5 in this case), go to the site below.

http://b5wars.agentsofgaming.com/

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Kizarvexis on 2002-08-31 19:52 ]</font>

Well, as we slide into geekiness further, i'm pretty sure the globes are shield generators. In ROTJ, a ship blows up the globes on a star destroyer, and then a A-wing crashes into the bridge, destroying it. Maybe just a coincidence, but it seems pretty likely to me. Other ships with shields don't have globes because they presumably have a different kind of generator.

So anyway, what's with the hyperdrive motivators on the Death Star? Surely the immense power required for the ion engine coils would destabilize the power convertors, causing implosion of the main reactors? [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img] Really, getting too technical about Star Wars is completely against the point. Go watch Star Trek. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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I think it's coincidence more than anything. Consider that they destroyed only one globe. They would've had to take out not only the other one on the tower, but the other six around the bridge tower, as well. The destruction of the globe was a big indicator that their deflector shields had gone out.

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-Adam

Hmm... firing the superlaser through the defensive shield on the Death Star (all versions, including the miniture beta test model on the work bench in Vaders garage).

Anybody ever see Spaceballs? All you have to do to get through the shield is open the big glass door!!

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yah but you have to have the code to open the door!!! Ummmm...Can anyone count down from 4?

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"It takes Thousands to fight a battle for a mile, Millions to hold an election for a nation, but it only takes One to change the world." - Dan Sandler 2002

Oh yeah... the code...

Well princesses(to many s's?) don't seem to be in short supply in galaxies far far away, just kidnap one and blackmail her fater for the code...

3...

2...

What the $%#( comes after 2?

A fact borne out by the books.

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/holocaust.html

Wedge's Gamble made reference to the extintion of the Ewoks by the fallout from the Death Star II. Complete climatic annihilation.

Also, If you'd remember the battle at Endor, the Super Star Destroyer Executor was rendered helpless and crashed into the surface of the second Death Star before the shields dropped. They could be overwhelmed.

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Hey! Reality is for those who can't handle Star Wars.

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If I remember correctly from the books, the Interdictor Class Star Destroyers hed the globes--They were used to creat a gravity well to drop ships out of hyperspace.

The balls on top of the Star Destroyers are definately Shield Generators. If any of you have played X-Wing or Tie Fighter then you'll find that they are.

Also in one of the tech manuals for Star Wars it discusses the design flaws in having exposed shield generators on Star Destroyers, in the shape of balls on top of the bridge.

btw not a star wars geek or anything just have strangly good memory for useless facts and figures...... (such as the combination to my luggage 5, 4, 3, 2, 1!)

Not necessarily. First off, you admitted you got some of your evidence from X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter, which is on the bottom of the official ladder. Second, the stats you mention are from West End Games, who also published inaccurate figures for the length of the Executor. I tend to take their information with a grain of salt.

As far as the canon evidence is concerned, they are more likely sensor equipment of some sort, given their logical location. Also, why would you design shield generators that were exposed to attack?

At any rate, the A-Wing that smashed through the Executor's bridge wouldn't have done so, if they were shield generators, unless both globes were destroyed. There are also scenes in the movie of Star Destroyers with gouts of flame coming out of windows in the bridge tower, yet both globes are intact.


-Adam

It would also be just like the shields used in Independence Day. If you recall, they stopped things like bullets, nuclear bombs, blasters, mountainsides, etc yet a person could walk right up to and through them (witness the can shooting scene in area 51).

How do things get "blowwn up" in space, complete with flames and pyrotechnics and all?
Ain't it supposed to be an oxygen-free vacuum?