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Old 11-July-2002, 06:20 PM
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I have just seen THE absolute worst movie that had the characters goping into space!!! SUPERMAN 4!!! Come on. They had superman and nuclear man going into sopcae without any protection. Talking!!! Brathing!!! and fighting about like there is not problem at all.
While you could say, "Hey G99 they are superpoeple!! they can do stuff that we can't" Well i will say "shut up and listen to my incredable intelegence and wisdom!!!" At the begining of the movie, They show russian astronaughts in SPACE SUITS stuck in a space station that is about to be hit by a large sattelite traveling at a very large rate of speed towards them. There is nuthing wrong with this, this is good, but somehow later they forget the whole, no air in space thing. At the end of the movie (Spoilers Alert!!) Nucler man kidnaps Lois Lane and travels into space with her, and she is wearing no protection!! Also she is screaming the whole way, even in space. He tavels to the moon with her in about a minute, (while he takes several minutes to travel the with of a city, i don't understand that) and then superman, also without protection, saves her and takes her back to earth unscaved. They are not even affected by travel back into the atmosphere. WHY DO MOVIES HAVE TO BE SO BAD!!

Has anyone seen other REALLY BAD ASTORONMY in movies? Not just something like a wrong colour of a star, something really bad.
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Old 11-July-2002, 06:46 PM
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I only have one thing to say - Armageddon.
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http://www.jabootu.com/s4.htm

I think this link pretty well covers why Superman 4 was so bad.
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One of the things I loved about the Superman cartoon was that thy made the Man of Steel wear a breathing apperatus (or was it a full suit? Dang, can't remember) when he went into space [i]sans[/s] ship.

Of course, Lobo didn't wear any protective gear, but I'm willing to accept that mayhaps Lobo didn't need air.
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One of the things I loved about the Superman cartoon was that thy made the Man of Steel wear a breathing apperatus (or was it a full suit? Dang, can't remember) when he went into space [i]sans[/s] ship.

Of course, Lobo didn't wear any protective gear, but I'm willing to accept that mayhaps Lobo didn't need air.
I remmeber the episode you are talking about. That cartoon was very good and he was wearing a fill space suit in the begining and after i think he was just wearing a mask over his nise (I think). But later on near the end of the cartoon series [ [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_frown.gif[/img] ] He fights the other two last remaining kryptonians and he is at one point flung into space near a black hole (whick was somewhat good in its portrayal, for a cartoon) And you see him clutching his neck, suggesting he can't breath, and final;ly he gets into a space ship adn turns on the air, and you see him gasping for air. GOOD one Matherly!
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I only have one thing to say - Armageddon.

I have to agree. It is almost as if they asked physicists and astronomers to list the most god awful mistakes that the screenwriters could make and then implemented all of them.

The story itself stands as a guide on what not to do if an asteroid is coming this way.
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I only have one thing to say - Armageddon.

I have to agree. It is almost as if they asked physicists and astronomers to list the most god awful mistakes that the screenwriters could make and then implemented all of them.

The story itself stands as a guide on what not to do if an asteroid is coming this way.
Not to mention the fact that it's just a plain old Bad Movie... lousy script, acting, direction, editing... you name it.
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I have just seen THE absolute worst movie that had the characters goping into space!!! SUPERMAN 4!!! <SNIP>

Has anyone seen other REALLY BAD ASTORONMY in movies? Not just something like a wrong colour of a star, something really bad.
SUPERNOVA.

So this alien civilisation makes this machine, which will make strange matter, and the dudes who travel to this planet where they discover it, travel thousands of light years.
Except when they set it off, and destroy the universe, it's like going to take 50 years to reach earth.

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I have just seen THE absolute worst movie that had the characters goping into space!!! SUPERMAN 4!!! <SNIP>

Has anyone seen other REALLY BAD ASTORONMY in movies? Not just something like a wrong colour of a star, something really bad.
SUPERNOVA.

So this alien civilisation makes this machine, which will make strange matter, and the dudes who travel to this planet where they discover it, travel thousands of light years.
Except when they set it off, and destroy the universe, it's like going to take 50 years to reach earth.

Yah i saw that movie. It was really bad. I can understand that a supernovea near the earth will destroy the earth, but there is no sun close enougth to us to destroy us. The closests star to us is 5 ly away and that is supposed to be the same mass as our sun( i think, tell me if i am wrong). I tottaly agree with you on that one.


Another bad space movie...Think red planet!! with val kilmer. Just bad. Why the hell does a russian UNMANNED space capsule have an instrumewnt panel in english? And why would they send a military robot with them with the military programing still in it? Just a bad movie.... Also very wrong spcae wise and the whole planet wioth air thing. Just bad.

Here is a review of the movie on this site:
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/movies/redplanet2.html
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Apparently, both versions of Nightfall.

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"If you are on a train going the speed of light and you fall forward flat on your face, was your nose travelling faster than the speed of light?"
Of course not, if you believe Einstein. Ask a harder one.
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Apparently, both versions of Nightfall.

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"If you are on a train going the speed of light and you fall forward flat on your face, was your nose travelling faster than the speed of light?"
Of course not, if you believe Einstein. Ask a harder one.
I'm rusty on my einstien, what does he say?
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Apparently, both versions of Nightfall.
I hesitated to bring these up on this thread because, while they are atrocious movies, there isn't much astronomy in them. (It's true of the 2000 version at least, and from what I read of the 1988 version, I don't think it has much more.) They mostly concern themselves with butchering Asimov's wonderful social thought experiment, and just skip lightly over the astronomical aspects of his story.


Now Armageddon, that's a BA nightmare, no question about it. Since readig the BA's reviews, I've been meaning to ask, which is actually the worst: Armageddon, Asteroid, or Doomsday Rock? I haven't seen either of the other two TV movies, so I can't comment on them, but I can't imagine they could be worse than Armageddon. (Note, I don't include Deep Impact, as that was actually a good movie.) But I thought I'd throw the floor open for debate. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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Now Armageddon, that's a BA nightmare, no question about it. Since readig the BA's reviews, I've been meaning to ask, which is actually the worst: Armageddon, Asteroid, or Doomsday Rock? I haven't seen either of the other two TV movies, so I can't comment on them, but I can't imagine they could be worse than Armageddon. (Note, I don't include Deep Impact, as that was actually a good movie.) But I thought I'd throw the floor open for debate. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
I vote for Armageddon mainly because it was hyped so much, making the disappointment even worse.
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I'm rusty on my einstien, what does he say?
If you are traveling in a 1956 Chevy at half the speed of light, and turn on the headlights, the light from them will appear to leave you at the speed of light--but a stationary observer will say the light is also moving at the speed of light.

And the Chevy has a bigger nose than you do, I'd imagine.
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Now Armageddon, that's a BA nightmare, no question about it. Since readig the BA's reviews, I've been meaning to ask, which is actually the worst: Armageddon, Asteroid, or Doomsday Rock? I haven't seen either of the other two TV movies, so I can't comment on them, but I can't imagine they could be worse than Armageddon.
"Dooms Day Rock" gets my vote for the all time worst. I stumbled across it one night when I was in a hotel. Read the BA's review of DDR. His is a glowing, praise filled, rave review compared to what it deserved. The dialog was so lame, I was embarrised for the actors who had to say the lines. I could feel myself blushing and at my stage of life, that's no small thing. It was sad to see accomplished actors such as William Devane degraded so pitifully.

Armageddon was as good as "Citizen Kane" compared to "Dooms Day Rock". Please excuse me, I have to go brush my teeth and gargle after talking about DDR>
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Astroid was the worst of those three. (I enjoyed the cool graphics of armageddon) I mean comeon. Almost all of the thing in there are dumbed down for the popular audience. I absolutly hate it when they dumb down stuff for the general audience. Just once do i want to see a movie that makes you say: "hey i want to know more about that subject, now i am going to look it up." Rather than making everyonme belive they are freaking experts after seeing that one movie.

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If you are traveling in a 1956 Chevy at half the speed of light, and turn on the headlights, the light from them will appear to leave you at the speed of light--but a stationary observer will say the light is also moving at the speed of light.

And the Chevy has a bigger nose than you do, I'd imagine.
Some might argue that my head is bigger than a chevy. But what are the effects for you (the dirver)if you are traveling at the speed of light in your car and you turn on the headlights? Also what does an observer see (if they could see the car and light)?
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One of the things I loved about the Superman cartoon was that thy made the Man of Steel wear a breathing apperatus (or was it a full suit? Dang, can't remember) when he went into space [i]sans[/s] ship.

Of course, Lobo didn't wear any protective gear, but I'm willing to accept that mayhaps Lobo didn't need air.
I remmeber the episode you are talking about. That cartoon was very good and he was wearing a fill space suit in the begining and after i think he was just wearing a mask over his nise (I think). But later on near the end of the cartoon series [ [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_frown.gif[/img] ] He fights the other two last remaining kryptonians and he is at one point flung into space near a black hole (whick was somewhat good in its portrayal, for a cartoon) And you see him clutching his neck, suggesting he can't breath, and final;ly he gets into a space ship adn turns on the air, and you see him gasping for air. GOOD one Matherly!
Now wait a minute. Supes powers are the result of our yellow Sun. How can he still have powers if he's out there somewheres near a black hole? Or, was the BH right here in our solar system or something?
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It was not near our solar system because the bad guys were rulers of an alien world. I don't remember what colour the alien sun was, but it must of been yellow, or maybe he had a yellow sun fusion drive in his ship. Who knows, they are advanced aliens. If they can travel several thousand light years to probe a farmers but, why can;t they have yellow sun fusion rockets.

P.S. Coconuts are very dangerous and they do mugrate. Right now the great coconut migration is taking over antartica. They are the heartiest living life form. They are suffocating all life out of the antartic shore lines. This information is being suppressed for fear of a world wide panic and the making of a coconut extermination. That is the real reason why the massive ice sheets are being broken off antartica. It is the U.S. and world scientists trying to drown and kill off as many of the coconut invaders as possible. ever hear of the invasion of the bady snatchers? that was made after a real event involving coconuts and a samll reaserch station in antartica where the whole reaserch station was taken over by the parasitic coconuts. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img] (i have a very active imagination)
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Some might argue that my head is bigger than a chevy. But what are the effects for you (the dirver)if you are traveling at the speed of light in your car and you turn on the headlights? Also what does an observer see (if they could see the car and light)?
I thought I sorta answered that, when I used the half-light speed. It's the same thing.

The only difference is, I feel uncomfortable talking about automobiles going the speed of light (because of a nasty accident in my youth), so I only used half. But with full speed, you'd see the light moving away at light speed--and so would the observer. The apparent contradiction is resolved because you and the observer have different reference times.

In fact, if you take it at face value, if you were to climb into such a car, you'd cross the universe in what appeared to you to be just an instant--even though, to the rest of us, well...we'd have lived and died billions of years before. So the results of the experiment are in dispute.
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