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Old 18-June-2005, 11:59 PM
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It's on BBC ONE. I only saw the last half and I'm not sure when it takes place, but given it took 20 years to do 100 missions, I'm assuming that STS 200 takes place around 2020 odd.
  • The cockpit in the Daedulus is the old style cockpit with mechanical main instruments plus extra data on CRTs. The Space Shuttle orbiters now have all glass cockpits where everything is displayed on 9 LCDs. In 2020, I wouldn't be surprised if the cockpits had been glassified even more to have only several large LCDs displaying the information like the 787 plans to have.
  • During the launch, we see out the windows and the horizon seems to show that underside of the orbiter is facing the surface, whereas from pretty much tower clear, the underside faces out toward space.
  • What was that stall thing they were doing? The last thing you want to do is stall a delta winged glider. If you want to lose height in glide, you use S-turns or side-slipping. Even overshooting and ditching in the water next to the Cape is preferable to entering a dangerous rate of sink in an aircraft that is difficult to unstall, which would probably result in the thing smacking down on the runway violenting killing everyone.
  • I'm still not convinced about the idea of having these old guys on the flight, who are out of recency and untrained in Space Shuttle flight. You didn't catch Ulli Lotzmann on Apollo 12 just because he's a geologist. He was in the backroom providing expertise from the ground.
  • Even before STS 107, who really believed that Space Shuttle would still be in service in 2020. Surely by then, it would be replaced by something new and lighter. Metal? That is so 20th century!
On another note, I thought the thrashing about of the cocky youngling on the tether in that accident on the weapon 'o mass destruction looked pretty authentic.
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Interesting, I hadn't realised they updated the Shuttle cockpits to screens rather than the old dials.

I seem to remember, when the shuttle was landing, it was reentering nose first rather than belly first. I thought that Shuttles landed belly first to increase drag and lose speed.
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IKON --or something like it actually flew.

Meet Polyus:
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/polyus.htm

It was either a Skif/DM laser or filled with nucear space mines--not a giant revolver like IKON--that was a waste. You had a handful of warheads atop missiles. That would have been good for a METEOR remake to reach asteroids quickly--but for planetary bombardment--you just need the actual warheads with small de-orbit packages.

Less a revolver and more a pez dispenser of death.
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IKON --or something like it actually flew.

Meet Polyus:
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/polyus.htm
Interesting. It flew, but mostly right into the ocean?
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Now that wasn't Energiya's fault. See the top part of Polyus witht he solar panels? That is TKS ferry/FGB tug. Normally that 20 ton piece of garbage is launched by its lonesome atop Proton--now used for Comsats and whatnot.

Energiya worked just fine. But that stupid Mir module flipped the 80 ton Polyus platform itself and pushed it down--either as a mistake--or at Gorby's command--depending on who you talk to. People wrongly think that an Energiya flight failed--confusing it with the N-1 explosion and the Nedalin disaster. N-1's blasted pad was visible from space. The Nedalin incident not so much.

It gave Energiya a bad wrap. I'm still steamed over that.
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