I liked his "cluelessness" in figuring out the "Sue angle". He got some real goofy looks on his face.

Actually, I thought he was able to make a number of expressions...though that "smile" was kinda scary.

I'm going to see it again, today. =D>

OT rant--

how come all it takes to make a successful Sue Storm is that she's hot? because the character is boring. that's why. as is Jean Grey. (the only superhero I can name who's named, or at least close enough, after a monarch of England.) with the exception of Wonder Woman, who was specifically designed to be as interesting as her male counterparts of the era (though I think Superman's pretty boring, too), the early female superheroes are all boring. the first interesting one was Storm, and from there, they got pretty good, mostly, but you still can name a dozen interesting male characters for every one interesting female.

I know, I know--it's 'cause girls don't read comics. except, of course, that they do--the woman who owns our local comicbook store surely counts, right?--and I've always believed a lot more would if they found characters with whom they could identify or whom they could consider as someone to be like. I'm sorry; I don't want to be like Wolverine. much as I like Spidey (man, I like Spidey) it would take a sex change for me to really be like him. this isn't fair.

okay, I'm done, and no, I haven't actually seen the movie yet. won't see it this weekend, either--we're going to see Charlie and the Chocolate Factory instead. still, the next X-Men movie's going to be a Phoenix saga (it doesn't take Reed Richards to figure that one out!), and I don't exactly see anyone falling all over themselves to make a Wonder Woman movie. grrrrrrr.

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"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Apparently, Joss Whedon is.

oh. well, I stand corrected, though I also stand by the main thrust of my argument.

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Actually, I think Wonder Woman was more a product of the creator's personal fetish than anything else. . . .

he's on record as having said that little girls needed a superhero role model, too. anything else is purely speculation. (even if it is probably true.)

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Decidedly unwholesome, no?

Comics 101 to the rescue! \/

Enter Diana: pt. I, pt. II

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Well, I've seen it now, and I liked it a lot. A fun movie.

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There were some distinct suspension-of-disbelief moments in it for me, but they didn't last too long. My only real peeve is with Sue Storm. She was . . . kind of bland, really. Plus, she illustrated something that I get really irritated with my gender for (I'm a woman, for the record): our stupid, culture-driven ideas of manliness. Look, sister, Reed isn't going to fight another man for your affection--not because he's a wimp, not because he doesn't care, but because if you tell him you want to be with someone else, he'll take your word for it. You either like him enough to take him as is--hint-impaired, second-guessing, the works--or you don't.

Ahh, she figured it out, though, so I suppose it's not that big a deal. I spent more time watching--and grooving on--the interaction between Ben Grimm and Johnny Storm. They both were good, but together they were excellent. And it wasn't exactly a big group hug by the end of the movie; you got the impression that these were two people who might fight to the death for eachother, but fight even harder if pressured to say something nice about the other one. I loved it.

Izunya

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I noticed this morning that FF came in 3rd in box office receipts behind 2 new movies...

...War of the Worlds came in 4th. :wink:

Anyhow...I've been thinking about it for a few days now, and I do have a problem with a major scene in Fantastic Four...

Spoiler...highlight to read

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--hippie

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Thanks to the comments on this thread (that it is about character development, not action, thus explaining the reviews) I went and saw it. Thanks, everyone!

Anyway, my "bad" contribution: the suits had the same powers as the heros, nice explaination! But what about the "4" logo that was added later? It would get burned off, stay visible, etc.

My admittedly hand-wavey explanation: Reed helped make the patches. I mean, he's Reed Richards. If it's physically possible to make something invisible, he can do it, right?

They did show him wearing the logo, in a rather chagrinned way, at the same time we first saw Johnny's. My suspicion is that Johnny talked him into it, possibly by waving his hand between Reed and the computer monitor until Reed really wanted him to go away--and then the idea sort of grew on him.

Izunya

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Well, Ben/Thing refused to wear his, so maybe Johnny used it for his own purposes...?

I finally saw this this past weekend, btw. Very good movie. 8)

Good point. Ben wore the bottoms at the end. But, Thing's cloth wouldn't have the same powers as the others.

He doesn't need special clothes to match his powers, I would think.

It's Clobbering time!

well not quite.

Saw the movie, enjoyed it and am willing to even make it to the sequel (something I didn't do for Spiderman, though I do have Spidy2 on DVD)

However, the thing that really irked, well apart for the lame can fly a tight circle around a building super heat seeking missile... The CGI were terrible, especially in the bridge scene. Now kay they didn't want to spend a million dollars on real cars and boats but at least they could have made the CGI ones look like they were real rather then having a totally different focus between the real footage and the CGI and boats that sat on the water without making any waves. Haow many boats have you seen that have a little bit of wash out the back and nothing else? It just ened up look totally fake and awful.

As to the "Thing" vs HT on screen, I'm, glad they didn't go CGI for the Thing, Ben looked great while the HT again looked awful when fully flamed. Perhaps they should have paid a little bit more and got a decent CGI department because it really was the major let down of the movie.

Having said that, I'd rate it up near the top of the Comic Book Movies though with attempts such as Dare Devil and Batman Returns clogging up the lower rungs, that's probably not saying a lot. Definately worth watching though.

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I know the best heat seeking missiles can make 25-30 g turns but I don't know how tight of a turn that would be.

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