I can't believe they killed off the (current) doctor already after one season! I really thought he was great!

I hope CBC will rerun the season during the summer. It was the same night as my choir rehursals so I only saw a couple of episodes. The first and last for sure and some in between. Something about a little kid with a gas mask, etc..

Are they making season 2?

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Pete

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There's so much I don't know about astrophysics. I wish I had read that book by that wheelchair guy.

Is it showing in the U.S. at all?

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Most of us canucks don't get all of US TV unless you have "special" satellite (usually illegal!) so I don't know. I thought that some parts of the US got either BBC or CBC on satellite.

I know we had "The Doctor" inviting us to watch the show on CBC, but usually right before the show! Well, duh, that's what we're here for!

Later

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There's so much I don't know about astrophysics. I wish I had read that book by that wheelchair guy.

Yep, killing off Eccleston was stupid. As was getting rid of Barrowman... Somehow, I get the feeling that the series is heading towards cheesier days.

(They could still do a lot to reduce the cheese factor... Like, for example, getting rid of those light bulbs on the Daleks, and tossing out Rose's ridiculous souped-up cell phone. Alternatively, they could make the whole series more like the first episode they aired this year, i.e. not taking itself seriously.)

Umm, maybe you guys missed the news, but Eccelston wanted out after the 2nd ep aired, not wanting to be typecast in the role. He wasn't fired, he quit (after finishing out the season).

There's the BBC America basic cable channel, but I believe it's only a selection of BBC programming, not a direct rebroadcast of the BBC schedule.

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He didn't quit as such, he was only contracted to do the first series.
Series 2 and 3 have been commisioned, Series 2 starts filming soon.

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And the scuttlebutt from Russel T Davies himself is that Captain Jack will be back a few eps into the new season.

Basically, he wanted to develop Rose's relationship with the Doctor post-regeneration without CJ there to distract things.

But why would they? Throughout its 40+ years on air, Dr Who has always walked the fine line between intensely scary and insanely cheesy - mostly successfully but occasionally dropping too far one side or the other. It is a part of its charm.

Not to mention the fact that it is, essentially, aimed at being a show for 9 year olds (and upwards).

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The regeneration was written in from the start, before they even had Ecclestone signed up, apparently. Davies was pretty miffed at BBC News for ruining the surprise, by the way.

I suppose he wanted a regen because they had no way of knowing how popular it would be and if they would get another run. If it had just been picked up by all the old Fanboys then it was dead but it got the top viewing figures for Sat nights and was only behind the 'Big Three' Soaps in the weekly figures (I think Casualty a medical soap/drama) on BBC1 beat it some weeks as well. In comparison ITV were beaten hollow in the same Sat slot every week. Even 'Ant and Dec' lost viewersa to it and when their run finished all ITV had to come back with was 'Celebrity Wrestling' and they dropped that half way through its run.

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Perhaps the increased cheese factor is part of preparation for a trip to the Moon.

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CBC is rerunning it. Sunday nights at 7, episode 5 aired this past Sunday.

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You can get the first series on DVD from the BBC.

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I am waiting for the boxset (the one shaped like the TARDIS).

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Yep, killing off Eccleston was stupid.

Eccleston quit. He was contracted to do one series, but chose not to do any more. Russell T Davies had no choice but to script a regeneration since Eccleston would not be coming back.

As was getting rid of Barrowman...

This was done for a reason. Captain Jack Harkness was a time agent from the 51st centruy. Having seen so much he would take regeneration in his stride. The intent was to have Rose as uncertain about the new Doctor as the viewers, without the benefit of someone else going 'oh, it's OK, he does this all the time'.

He was resurrected at the end of the episode because the intent is to bring him back at some point later on.

getting rid of those light bulbs on the Daleks

Those light bulbs serve an important function, namely showing which Dalek is speaking in a multipe Dalek scene. That was the reason for putting them in in the first place over forty years ago, and that seems a good reason for keeping them.

The regeneration was written in from the start, before they even had Ecclestone signed up, apparently.

I doubt that very much. The scene is so clearly tacked on, and the logic behind the regeneration was seriously flawed (the Doctor effectively dies because he has absorbed the full energy of the time vortex, but Rose had done this and become omnipotent long enough to vaporise the Dalek fleet and send the Bad Wolf words through time, and she just woke up fine!).

I read the statement as meaning that once it became clear that Eccleston did not want to do any more he wrote a regeneration to finish off the series, intending to keep it quiet and surprise everyone. What blew the gaff was that series 2 was confirmed very early on but Eccleston's continuation as the Doctor was not, so some bloodhound journalists pestered the BBC about it and they released a statement saying Eccleston would not be continuing, thus forcing the whole regeneration out into the light before the surprise could be sprung.

Eccleston was annoyed at the BBC because they released a statement supposedly from him without his consent.

Eccelston wanted out after the 2nd ep aired,

That's when the announcement was made (see above), but given how far advanced the talks with David Tennant were at that point I think it likely that Eccleston had told Davies he did not want to carry on during the filming or shortly after the filming was completed.

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That's too bad about Eccleston. I really enjoyed him. I thought he was great

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There's so much I don't know about astrophysics. I wish I had read that book by that wheelchair guy.

I mean getting rid of the ridiculous protruding glass cylinders, which have obviously visible light bulbs in them.

Is episode 6 the only one with a Dalek? I haven't seen all the episodes yet.

6, 12, and 13 all feature Daleks.

More Daleks than you have ever seen.

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The other reason for Captain Jack joining the fray was that they wanted somone to lead an army, (for those who havn't seen Eps 12 & 13 , an army is necessary), and Russell T Davies was adamant that there was no way Rose was going to be armed... And the doctor with a gun - no not really in keeping with the doctor as he's played at the moment

All I'll say is that my wife really dosent like Science fiction in any way shape of form, (apart fro a casual infation with col O'Neil on Stargate!), but she was hooked on Dr who from the first - and she's counting down to Xmas for the special - and next year for season 2

One otherthing to consider about Christopher Ecelstone leaving was that he was involved in the series for 9 months , 12-14 hours a day for 9 months - so perhaps he was just worn out ....

He was just in 'A Day in the Death of Joe Egg' on Radio 3. was very good.

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