He, he, I got Man-Kzin wars IX at Hastings for $4.99. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]

Sorry to disappoint you Colt, but the Kzin are described numerous times as having bald, rat-like tails. In fact, the most common human nickname for them is "ratcats". The main purpose was probably balance and maneuverability originally, but it's no doubt shrunk down to just a vestigal appendage in modern Kzin.

Tracer, I briefly talked about the Star Trek episode in this thread. In my opinion the Kzin in that episode looked like scraggly wimps. They were not large enough, nor ferocious-looking enough. They looked more like stray alleycats that hadn't had a decent meal in weeks than ferocious tiger-like aliens.

Still, the animation in ST-TAS was not that good overall, so it was basically par for the course. The story translated pretty well. Follow the link I gave in the above post for some screenshots of the episode.

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Sounds a bit like some types of sushi... like the "dancing shrimp" or the thing where they dismantle a live lobster for your dining enjoyment [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]

I know that they describe them with bald tails man times.. But they have also been described as using them for balance and as a weapon. I agree though, the Kzin in those screenshots don't look right at all. Most of them look like they are hunchbacked and are as big as a human. -Colt

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Also got their space suits wrong--in the Ringworld Engineers, Chmee's space suit is described as a set of clear plastic balloons. Luis Wu was expecting something like a suit of armor....

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441!!!! :)

I'm mostly partial to the Niven/Pournelle collaborations. The Moties and grendels always impressed me as truly alien. The thought of a super-predator with the capability to supercharge its blood's oxygen carrying capacity for short bursts just always gave me the willies. And grendels eat us because that's what they do... eat. We're a sporting challenge, but don't necessarily taste good to them.

Oh, and Moties had no real interest in eating us at all.

Would you go to another planet and after looking at the inhabitants say
they look delicious!

I found a recipe I would like to share...


<quote>
Aliens In Meat Shells

Ingredients
1 dz aliens, small
1 cow, mutilated and de-boned
10 dz eggs, large
20 8 oz packages, seasoned bread crumbs
1 lb butter, soft
6 cloves garlic, crushed
5 tsp oregano
5 tsp black pepper
1 6-ft long piece of aluminum foil

Take your 6-ft long piece of aluminum foil and fashion a helmet out of it.
Place the helment on your head (this protects you from the mind-control
powers of the aliens). Now take your mutilated and de-boned cow
(doscarding the hooves and carcass) and grind the meat and organ tissue to
a smooth consistency. Take the ground cow and mix in your eggs, garlic
and bread crumbs, along with 1/2 lb of your soft butter.

Now take your aliens (make sure they are thoroughly washed and scrubbed)
and roll them in your ground cow mixture, coating each completely. You
can shape them into eggs (a festive touch for Easter) or simply leave them
in quasi-human form. Sprinkle oregano and black pepper over them and bake
in an oven pre-heated to 425degF for 3 hours or until the meat shells are
a deep, sizzling brown.

Serves 50-60 unbelievers.
</quote>

What no paprika?

Where's the cheese? Or was it a kosher meal? [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]

The grendles were cool--I like the way they took and actual species and used it as a basis for the grendle....

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441!!!! :)

The drawings are how I see the Kzin in my mind. Huge, barrel chested, orange, catlike, and above all... alien.

i disagree about the larry niven novel

try "protector" it was a fantastic introduction for me to him

also "the mote iin gods eye"

Welcome at BAUT, panzer.

Uh, did you notice you resurrected a three year old thread?

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Yea, just so you know panzer bringing back thread older then a year or so is generally frowned upon here, welcome to BAUT!

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But it was such a good thread. obtw which book were the grendles in? I don't remember them.

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In which case we should say "Tanks" Panzer.

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The Legacy of the Heorot and The Dragons of Heorot by Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle, and Steven Barnes

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441!!!! :)

The long and the short of it is stories about aliens eating people speaks to us on our most basic level.

It's ingrained to the lowest animal part of our psyche, being eaten is one of the most horrific things that can happen to you.

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Exactly so. Just ask Quint!

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Sorry, I love that monologue. Whenever I come across that movie on cable, if it's near that scene, I HAVE to watch until Quint finishes that monologue.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread...

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I've long been of the opinion that aliens we be unable to eat us, and vice versa; the proteins and biochemistry will probably be incompatible. Chemicals that are harmless to them may be dangerous to us, or their proteins may be incapable of assimilation by our gut, and so on--the huge variety of workable organic compounds and possible proteins out there, IMO, favors my scenario. In short, if we ever go to an extrasolar Earth, I'm thinking we'll bring our own crops rather than try to live off the land.

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