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Old 18-March-2003, 03:33 PM
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Here's the specific photo from the slideshow:

Tuesday, March 18 (hopefully that URL won't change on me....)

In case the URL changes, the picture shows a beam of light doing something weird to the Golden Gate Bridge. Out of context, it's fairly inexplicable. Here's the Reuters caption for the picture:

The Golden Gate bridge is depicted in a scene from the new sci-fi film 'The Core'. The scenario depicted in the film mirrors a scientist's new theory about the Earth's core. Geophysicist Dr. J. Marvin Herndon published his theory that the Earth's nuclear furnace could die in as little as 100 years or as long as one billion years, and if it did it's possible that the planet's magnetic field would collapse in.

Dear God, please don't tell me they think "The Core" has actual science in it! And that a real life scientist is being associated with it! [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] Color me skeptical, but I don't think the movie is all that likely to "mirror" any real scientist's theory, except for the very barest traces of it.
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Old 18-March-2003, 05:38 PM
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I believe that the planet is essentially one large RTG, using the heat of nuclear decays to run all the seismic stuff. It's fair to say that sooner or later, the isotopes would all decay to stable stuff and there would be nothing left.

The idea of the core stopping it's spin suddenly is laughable.

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Old 18-March-2003, 07:21 PM
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Uhmmm... I think the South Tower would bend south if the center span collapsed - since the tension, which is enormous - is still pulling from the south anchorage and the short south span.
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Old 18-March-2003, 09:31 PM
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Pic has changed. Here's the new adress for the pic:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...170/3f4u1.html
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Old 18-March-2003, 09:34 PM
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What i wan't to know is what the heck is that beam? Did some nation invent a solar weapon?

I will ask like i did in the other thread. If the microwaves were so strong why is Mars still here? Why do our probes survive on mars? How did Apollo Astronauts survive?

Oy! this movie has given me headaches just from the picture. Tell me does anyone want to go for a Tylenol run before the movie comes out?
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Old 18-March-2003, 10:31 PM
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What i wan't to know is what the heck is that beam? Did some nation invent a solar weapon?
From the Reuter's caption:

"In 'The Core,' geophysicists discover that the earth's geomagnetic field is rapidly deteriorating, resulting in global catastrophes that include the earth being hit by superstorms, people with pacemakers dropping dead, the collapse of the Golden Gate Bridge."

So, there you have it! The beam demolishing the Golden Gate bridge is, um, a few cosmic rays that would normally have been captured by the Earth's magnetic field. Man, I had no idea that a few stray high-energy charged particles from space would spontaneously produce a focused, columnated beam so darned wide that it would melt a suspension bridge.
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Old 18-March-2003, 10:49 PM
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If it melts the bridge so fast (i am assuming a single short pass) that thing must be radiating a ton of heat.

A civil war fort and a large tourist area is right nearby (under and above one spane respectively). Not to mention the city of San Fransisco itself.

You would say byebye to them. They would incinerate like flashpaper.

You can then also say goodbye to more more of the bay. The surrounding water would be sublimating right away, no time to boil.

Hmm..Those dang deadly Ban Allen belts must be rediecting that evil radiation to the ground.

Also i thought that only ultraviolet, radio, and visible light could get throught our Atmosphere. Would not our atmosphere and water vapor ansorb the bulk of the "cosmic" rays?
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Old 18-March-2003, 11:12 PM
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Perhaps it's Bad Journalism but the above article says "..coincidentally mirrors a scientist's new theory"

But coincidently .."J. Marvin Herndon of Transdyne Corp. in San Diego, who worked as an advisor to Paramount Pictures in the creation of the new science thriller, maintains that a nuclear "georeactor" provides most of the heat in the Earth's spinning core."

above quoted article here



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Old 19-March-2003, 12:36 AM
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I bet it is the crazy Russians in the movie, they blame it on the Americans so they unleash some "dusty" satellite weapon from the SDI days. -Colt
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Old 19-March-2003, 01:19 AM
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Man, I had no idea that a few stray high-energy charged particles from space would spontaneously produce a focused, columnated beam so darned wide that it would melt a suspension bridge.
Well, you know Hollywood rules:
If there's a monster: it attacks Tokyo.
If you are in San Francisco: there's a car chase down the bumpy road.
If there's a car chase: you overturn the fruit/vegetable cart, hit the fire hydrant, dodge and are cut-off by the large truck, . . . .
If there's meteors/meteorites: they hit the cities.
If there's any kind of natural disaster: well, what's the fun in damging rural or suburban areas (OK, shows like Smallviille being an exception)? You gotta go for the national landmarks. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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Old 19-March-2003, 02:37 AM
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Cosmic rays? What the hey? Even the most energetic cosmic rays have energies ~10^20 eV. While this represents an enormous energy for an atomic nuclei to have, in reality it is about the same energy as when a pitcher throws a fastball.

Fire up the MST3K machine for this one [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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Old 19-March-2003, 03:14 AM
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Man, I had no idea that a few stray high-energy charged particles from space would spontaneously produce a focused, columnated beam so darned wide that it would melt a suspension bridge.
Well, you know Hollywood rules:
If there's a monster: it attacks Tokyo.
If you are in San Francisco: there's a car chase down the bumpy road.
If there's a car chase: you overturn the fruit/vegetable cart, hit the fire hydrant, dodge and are cut-off by the large truck, . . . .
If there's meteors/meteorites: they hit the cities.
If there's any kind of natural disaster: well, what's the fun in damging rural or suburban areas (OK, shows like Smallviille being an exception)? You gotta go for the national landmarks. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
You forgot to add:

-If it's NYC, its always coudy and raining.
-If its in space, its always radiation or a hull breach due to some out of nowhere meteor shower
-If it is machines, it is aways unstopable except for one small flaw or easily stopable but in the millions
-if it is aleins they are always trying to stop "our warring ways"
-if it is the govt. it is always b/c of some new super weapon
-if the earth is doomed you never send up trained technitians, you send up loveable ragtag characters that will fight more with eachother than actually do any good.

And the list goes on and on....

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Old 19-March-2003, 06:59 AM
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-if the earth is doomed you never send up trained technicians, you send up loveable ragtag characters that will fight more with eachother than actually do any good.
The saboteur, you forgot the saboteur! And don't forget he gets killed off, but always by his own greed or mistake; never by the hero who only kills anonymous attacking enemies.
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Old 19-March-2003, 07:16 AM
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Geophysicist Dr. J. Marvin Herndon published his theory that the Earth's nuclear furnace could die in as little as 100 years or as long as one billion years, and if it did it's possible that the planet's magnetic field would collapse in.

Dear God, please don't tell me they think "The Core" has actual science in it! And that a real life scientist is being associated with it! [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] Color me skeptical, but I don't think the movie is all that likely to "mirror" any real scientist's theory, except for the very barest traces of it.
The Earth's nuclear center could cool off in as little as 100 years? Huh?

Are you saying this guy is a real scientist?

Do I detect another BB category here? 'The Earth's going to go cold in 100 years'.
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If there's a car chase: you overturn the fruit/vegetable cart, hit the fire hydrant, dodge and are cut-off by the large truck, . . . .
You left out the guys carrying the large pane of glass.
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Old 19-March-2003, 06:21 PM
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The same picture was in the April 2003 issue of Discover.
http://www.discover.com/apr_03/featreviews.html

MICROWAVES?!?!

The movie is reviewed in that issue with the remarkable headline "The Sky Is Falling, The Science Is Fine"

No further comment lest we fry our brain cells.
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The Core!!!?

I guess everyone needs money even http://www.space.com
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http://www.discover.com/apr_03/featreviews.html
Well, we have confirmation that at least part of g99's prediction is true. [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

"To get all the way down to the core, the filmmakers have to resort to make-believe. A maverick scientist (played with welcome restraint by Delroy Lindo) has created a material that is not only impervious to heat but actually grows stronger as the temperature and the pressure rise. In a sly reference to sci-fi lingo, this improbable substance is called unobtanium." (unobtanium [img]/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif[/img] ) "Researchers and engineers from around the world join forces to build an earth-boring ship, a hotshot young space-shuttle pilot (Hilary Swank) joins the crew, and the expedition is off and running." (emphasis mine)

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Old 20-March-2003, 04:35 AM
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Predictions 2.0:

Its called "the movie disaster effect". In any diaster a hodgepodge of unlikely characters will come out to save the world.

It must include one sexy girl. If she is not part of the team that goes up, than she is the girlfriend of a teammember.

They are never married. They get engaged just before they go out into space to add drama and a "Oh no! He must come home now!" effect.

It must include a geeky scientist with Eintein or Kramer hair. If not the scientists is a very handsom male. No average looking scientist.

If it is in space, the NASA technition is bald, wearing glasses, and a labcoat 24 hours a day.

The lead character is gruff, mean, and has a permanent smear. His has a personal past that is never fully revealed except his personal interaction with the nemesis of the movie.
ex. If it is a quake, one person in his family or a close friend was killed by a previous quake. If he is a driller, someone died on his rig or in a mine.

This personal tragedy will make the gruff character survive untill the end of the movie where he will sacrifice himself for the good of the crew or bloodily come out of it at the end with no less than a scratch above the eye, a bloody lip, and a ripped shirt.

One character has to be a outlaw or has a criminal past. (Usually killed halfway throught the movie, so useless)

All computer interfaces shown will be a GUI and easily navagatable by even a kindergardener. Yet the person using the computer will NEVER use a mouse (than why make it a GUI?). It will always involve a series of keyboard clicks in random places. This will fool the audience into thinking that they know what the heck they are doing.

The computer interface will also say in large bold letters what it is doing.
ex. DOWNLOADING NOW, UPLOADING VIRUS, or a countdown timer.

If the protagonist is a natural element and not a bad guy controlling the element, than the human protagonist will be a gruff general in the military that the hero is a part of.

The beautiful female character will never be killed off. The most that will happen is a nice ripped shirt showing either a. Cleavage or b. midriff

Finally, there will the the token ethnic person to add either comical relief of another military personell. This ethnic person is very rarely a main character and almost never the scientist or computer genious (but there have been exceptions to the rule).

P.S. if any of this resembles something already written i am sorry. I am trying to do this by making it up. I will edit out any copied remarks.
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Old 20-March-2003, 06:11 AM
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Unobtanium??

Isn't that the metal from the Bullwinkle cartoons that levitates the floating city?

ugh..this just keeps getting better and better...I have to see this movie.

edit: nope, just remembered that the Bullwinkle metal is Upsydasium...oh well...

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