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Dune was a visual tour de force that has not been surpassed in some ways. But it mutilated some of the most basic tenents of Herbert's universe, in particular the concept of the superiority of the human over the machine. This is most notable with the "wierding modules", technology with amplified the power of the vice to destructive levels. Also the assumption of god-like powers at the end of the film was not explainable within the frame of the story.
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No order, save the first:
2001: A Space Odyssey: Not just the greatest scifi film of all time, or even the greatest film of all time, but I would even go as far as to say one of the greatest works of art of all time. The Ripley trilogy: I don't count the fourth film in the Alien franchise, as it technically deals with a separate character to Ripley, but the first three Alien films together (particularly with the fully restored assembly cut of Alien3) make up the single greatest tragedy in the history of science fiction. Star Wars/The Empire Strikes Back: None of the other four Star Wars films possessed either the mythic power of the first or the artistic quality of the second. The Terminator: Strangely, I would say that this is one of the most philsophically challenging of scifi films, possibly the most after 2001. Yes, it rips shamelessly off La Jetee, but where that film was ponderous, The Terminator is multilayered, weaving into its action/horror frame meditations on the nature of fate and free will, the mythic basis of Freudian psychology, and even Nietzsche's fatalist conception of Greek tragedy. It is also the single most terrifying vision of the future ever put to film. Blade Runner: Plot holes and inconsistencies aside (how is it that people are crammed together in 100-story tower blocks if the world is underpopulated?) the look and vision of this film is probably the most accurate view of where we're going ever shot. The War of the Worlds/Forbidden Planet: The two greatest 50s B movies ever made, these movies have a colour and a retro-futurist beauty that modern, squarish concrete "futuristic" styles can't hope to equal. Plus they both do justice to their classic source material, even while they veer wildy from their sources in most respects.
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And a bit later, Reese goes on alert when he hears the dog start barking. Which was cool, 'cause the dog actually did start barking at the terminator's passing.
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http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/08/07/103029.php http://www.answers.com/topic/forbidden-planet Dave Mitsky
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Well, the same is true of "War of the Worlds". But both of those movies were very much in the spirit of the scifi of the era, including "The Blob", "Creature From the Black Lagoon" and "Earth vs. The Flying Saucers." Lovely garish colours, closeups of girls screaming, monotonous robots, and, of course, short skirts.
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Ian McNeice looked like he had a ball playing Vladimir Harkonnen (the old movie's Harkonnens were disgustingly one-dimensional, complete waste of Sting and Brad Dourif), and I personally liked the much expanded role of Irulan. |
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You're saying that Robby was monotonous? B picture n. A movie produced on a low budget, originally made to accompany the main feature in a double billing. Also called B movie. http://www.answers.com/B%20movie Dave Mitsky
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War Of The Worlds was far from a low budget effort. It came in at just shy of a million dollars for the production, which in 1953 was Paramont's most expensive film of the year.
Just like later day films like ID4 - War Of The Worlds was deisgned as a special effects tour-de-force. Sadly with the passing of time those effects have become primitive exposing the real weakness in the film, its lack of plot or acting. Which is one of the reasons when any list of science fiction films is made, it should always take into account the passage of time, and the context in which it is created. |
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Hm. I didn't know you could use "monotone" as an adjective. I looked it up and apparently you can use "monotonic", which I like, since it doesn't cause confusion.
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It's part of the interesting flexibility of english, nouns can become verbs, verbs can become adjectives, things are slippery and fun.
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I'd change the list a little (but putting it in no particular order)
2001 Star Wars/ESB Alien/Aliens. As long as sequels can be listed I think Aliens should be up there. It's a great sequel, because it builds up on things established in the first movie without just repeating it. Plus it's got some of the best dialogue ever in a science fiction movie. Solaris Terminator/T2 The Day the Earth Stood Still I have to admit I've never actually seen this. Still I'll keep it on cause it's, like, a classic. The Matrix Edit: I should mention that when I was making the list I hadn't seen Solaris or Forbidden Planet. Having seen the later, I'm sorry I left it on.
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Yeah, but I can understand why many people would find it too methodical, distant, depressing, vague, and so on, to really like it. |
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