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That's why I read more than watch movies
.Larryt Nivens aliens are a little more multi-cultural than those of many movies I've seen. But looking at Earth, now we are moving to "continental" cultures with the advent of mass communication. Befor I get flamed, I do understand that that is a massive oversimplification, but give it time as old cultures blend into new ones. In a few centuries (or longer) the Earth may well be one culture that is completely alien to us now...
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We fear what we don't understand. Star Trek takes all of its Aline cultures from earth. We tried to find out what each is in a thread sometime ago (can't remmeber which).
Insect aliens scare me because they are ugly. I think they are so common because the hive mentality is so unhuman. They are always posed as a million insect army coming at you with no disreguard to their own lives. They sacrifice millions just to get at a main character. It is unhuman and it scares us. I don't think it parallels communism. That is more Star Wars and Star Trek. |
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Type number one comes from the nature of the SF genre. Quite often, SF is used as a mirror for our own society. Aliens are used as substitutes for human groups, which allows social commentary to be made while at the same time bypassing innate prejudices.
Types two and three are mythical archetypes. They are the modern versions of the gods, angels, faries, demons and other magical beings found throughout human history. As such, they either become our teachers and benefactors, or supernatural enemies to overcome. They symbolize either the best or worst in humanity in an exaggerated way.
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Each human is unique. All of us are different from one another, there are no two alike. We are individuals, sentient beings who can think and reason independantly of a larger group. The hive mentality is the complete opposite. Each unit of the hive is not sentient nor really self-aware. They just work. They use the mass force of numbers to overcome problems which we normally conquer using intelligence.
The Russians were less advanced than the Germans in WWII. They used large numbers of untrained and poorly equiped soldiers to combat the highly-trained and technologically equipped Germans. It is my opinion though that they would not have overcome the Germans unless the allies were fighting the Germans on the Western Front as well. We see this type of story played out in Starship Troopers (the best example I can think of at the moment) by the humans equipped with advanced technology against brainless drones who hold no value for their own lives. In the hive sense you can not really say that each is an individual. They are all units of a larger organism which resembles a living being. There is a brain, worker, food gatherer, reproduction capabilities, and soldiers. -Colt
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I still say it all comes down to how creative the writers, producers, designers, et al can be . It also comes down to what actually makes a (well, they try anyway) good story.
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I think perhaps the insect/hive type aliens are mainly used because it's not necessary to feel much guilt when the heroes obliterate them. They don't think, feel, etc., so why feel bad about wiping them out?
The humanoid types are, I agree, much scarier because to me they represent some deformity of ourselves. The problem is that all these types are just variations on lifeforms with which we are familiar, and it's a pretty rare science fiction writer (book or screen) who can think outside those lines. Maybe the Guild navigators in Dune, or the plant-based creatures in Brunner's Crucible of Time. At least those were original. |
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The Puppeteers were pretty original too, and the Kzinti. At least physically. I am pretty sure there have been other feline-like alien species but the Kzinti have culture, morals (if you believe that), and have a huge backstory. I am about to go and buy the rest of the Man-Kzin Wars books new because no one seems to be taking them to the used book store. :x
-Colt
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First post.
I think it is important to realize that humans are not individuals. Each one of us is a "hive" of non-sentient life-forms that work together for the overall good of the body. These individuals do not care for their own lives. Just pondering. :wink:
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