Couldn't they have at least put in a full view of Optimus at the end saying "Lets roll out!" or something? I guess that would make too much sense.

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since i have a whopping 26.4k dial up connection, i can't comment on any new trailer..
but Entertainment Tonight did a little story about the movie, and the transformations just seemed a little bit overly complicated. i think i saw Optimus's head form out of a dozen moving parts..
and the "transform" sound was all wrong.
worst. cartoon-to-live action-translation. ever.
so, i'll only see it twice on opening weekend, then buy the DVD the night it comes out..
and, since Clerks2 is now out on DVD, every time i think of the Transformers movie, i think of LOTR and Star Wars, as well.

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Well they have completely changed the aesthetic from the original. Disapointing. Nothing in that trailer really interested me. It looks like any generic action movie.

I'll say it again: dissapointing.

How could a movie about giant transforming robots starring Bernie Mac, Shia Lebouf, Tyrese Gibson and Jon Voight possibly be disappointing?

I understand Michelle Pierce is phenomenal as 'Socialite #2'.

With an average 2.3 second shot length, at least you won't be disappointed by any one shot for very long.


If you wan't lti, you can come on over, I'll address the Will Smith I AM LEGEND travesty and we can weep together.

I weep already. At least there'll be lots of shiny things, and explosions to keep me entertained. Hopefully, that'll prevent my brain from screaming obscenities at me until the movie's over.

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That's all I expect out of this - mindless fun.

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On the positive side, it keeps the glimpses of the transformers to a bare minimum which is a nice change from the trailers these days that give away everything.

On the other hand, it does suggest that this is a human story (including the obligatory Michael Bay patented sappy love story), and not focusing on the transformers as characters in their own right.

I only want mindless fun too, but with Bay I usually only end up with the first half of that equation.

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http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index...ory=0&id=40510

Hmm....

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I'm guessing that speaks more to the arbitrary craziness that is the MPAA than it does to the content of the movie.

well, according to this quote from that page:

"Just Megatron's arm has 15,000 moving pieces that all converge like [a] Rubik's Cube"

the transformations alone will take up half of the running time of the movie.

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Has anyone seen the TV spots yet?

Seeing a jet turn into a robot in mid air was amazing, the CG looks to be very well done.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM_kMjEC_PY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nqGCEOY_qY&NR=1

These spots? Yeah they're pretty cool.

Notice how they used the same tagline and narrator as with War of the Worlds? Harbringer indeed...

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There is a new trailer up, and the CG robots are looking as fantastic as ever, plus Optimus Prime looking like he's about to go all karate.

http://movies.yahoo.com/summer-movie...railers/31/180

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The use of the original voice actor for Prime will probably save this one for me. That, and their use of the original transformation sound effect at the end of his rig to robot conversion.

On the cheeseball side, Starscream as a silver F-22 instead of a red F-15 is a little annoying.

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Ah but the F-22 is so much cooler looking than the F-15!

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And more modern, not to mention stealthy. If their vehicle forms are intended to just fit in then the F-15 is still way more common than an F-22 but if intended to fit in and be state of the art then the F-22 is the way to go.

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Giant transforming robots? Check.
Giant robots punching eachother? Check.
Giant robots wrecking up the place? Check.
Giant robots transforming, punching eachother, and then wrecking up the place? Check.

Well that's all my expectations satisfied. Talk of a Stan Bush track on the OST is just a bonus frankly.

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But will this movie answer the question of whether or not Optimus Prime is a robot that can transform into a truck or a truck that can transform into a robot? The correct answer is obvious, but there are certain heretics whose blasphemies need to be stamped out.

well, they RE "robots in disguise"... that pretty much says it all.
it is maybe possible that Optimus is really a robot in the shape of a gorilla, and everything is just a dream as he sleeps one night...

but i can't figure out one thing..
where is the Transformers marketing blitz? i kinda figured Wal Mart would have their shelves packed full of new Transformers stuff by now, but the only thing even remotely close to Transformers were the Star Wars ships that turn into the main characters of that film..
maybe they'll move the Pirates stuff out of the way when it's cycle is thru and put the cool stuff there..

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Yes, but maybe that's exactly what they want you to think!

I believe the use of transformations into Earth-based vehicles occurred after the robots were in functioning form for a while. Thus, they are likely robots first and other stuff (not just vehicles, I guess) second, unless they changed the back-story.

Re:marketing blitz. Does the movie come out on July 4? It's a bit early to do the marketing blitz, with Shrek and Pirates still dominating attention. I'd think it'd come in early-to-mid June.

Does anyone know what Megatron actually transforms into?

The movie's versions of the Transformers, each composed of a zillion tiny little doodads, are too complicated to make toys out of. And the old original toys would differ too much from the movie's incarnations.

i don't recall the toys from 20 years ago transforming like they did on tv every day after school, so i don't think that's much of a hurdle.
now that i think of it- it's even stranger that there are no Transformers toys at Wal Mart now, since i was looking at an Optimus Prime toy there just a few weeks ago, and they had a bunch of smaller Transformers at that time, too. now, they are all gone, and there are only the cheap Chinese knockoffs in their place.. no doubt they cleared them out to make way for the official movie merchandise in the next week or two..

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there are movie toys out there, i guess.
i looked at www.transformers.com and looked thru all the new toys..
Megatron is some sort of a futuristic anime jet fighter thing that looks like he was designed by a 5th grade Japanese art student on acid, and Optimus has flames on his hood.

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Megatron keeps his "native" form in the movie and never takes an earth form, he's an alien spaceship/jet type thing.

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Thanks for the answer, folks! I hope it doesn't turn into a full-fledged cars versus planes only. I kind of liked the variety, with Soundwave, Megatron being a non-jet, dinobots, insecticons, etc. Actually I thought I saw a non-vehicle in the trailer, but couldn't quite make it out.

was it a giant scorpion?
Scorponok..

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I don't know what it was. It was too brief, but it did look like a crawling-type creature. Perhaps it was a scorpion.

I went and saw it last night.

Shot on plot, long on stuff blowing up and giant robots that destroyed everything around them when they fought.

I loved it.

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So, about what we expected then.

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