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Lois and Clark did a good job, but did it by focusing on Clark more than Superman.

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Yeah, L&C was the best, IMO, interpretation. I'm a big fan of the late Lane Smith too, and his Perry White was caustic, but quite likable. (Pretty much the same character he reprised as Emmett Seaborn in FtEttM.)

It's kind of funny: I'd had a brief hospital stint not long after the time L&C was on, and one of the nursing students assigned to my ward looked like a spitting image of Dean Cain with the Clark glasses. I never pointed it out, but the wiseguy part of me kept having the impulse to whistle the Superman theme whenever he was around.

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Yeah, I heard the plot and just scratched my head. Appearently Lex Luthor's evil only goes to stealing money from dying widows and real estate grabs?

However, I'll take the campy Chris Reeve's vehicle over this plodding film.

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I disagree. There are many intresting portrayals of Superman:

Bruce Timm's DC Animated Universe had a very textured portrayal. I especially loved the episode where Clark Kent "died" in a car wreck and the episodes where Superman finally lets himself go and unload his frustration on Darkseid.

The 'elseworlds' comic series "The Dark Knight Returns" and "Kingdom Come" both have some intresting philosophical and physical conflicts between Superman and Batman.

As for Superman being to powerful to be intresting (I know that's not what you said, Gillianren. I just want to make a point), the argument that powerful characters can be intresting is exactly what motivated Neil Gaiman to create Dream and the other Endless- beings whom the gods fear- in what is widely regarded as the best comic series ever, Sandman.

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Well I certainly think so anyway!!!

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Hmmm- if I remember correctly, Lex Luthor gets his kryptonite from Ethiopia in Superman II (is it, or III?). In which case, it's just a nod to the earlier films.

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Which is exactly the point Gillianren had, superman is too perfect, while the endless as people are fundamentally flawed by being contrasts to the concepts they where supposed to reflect, which is what makes them so interesting.
Ok, Despair is not in much contrast, but she's both the youngest(having replaced a previous Despair) and the least interesting.

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Definitely should have focused more on Clarke. I hate this interpretation that Clarke is a secret identity and his real self is Superman. I see it more as he was raised as Clarke Kent. He is Clarke first and foremost.

Perhaps they could have focused on the anguish he faces between wanting to have his own life (Lois, kids, and a quarter acre block etc) and wanting to save everyone he can. Similar idea to the dilemma Buffy faced often in her tv series. The movie alludes to this idea, but never really explores it.

The also needed more interaction between Lex and Superman. Much like the disasterous Fantastic Four the heroes and villians only face off against each other at the very end of the movie. I want to see a Lex that is cunning and ruthless.

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One time, just once, I'd like to see Lex pull of something cruel, nasty, and completely legal, THEN throw the perfect one at that mess and see what he makes of having to possibly, maybe, having to crossing the line a little to get the job done.

If you're powerful enough to do anything, are you powerful enough to face the consequences of it? Superman, as well as anyone can ever perform him, is still too black and white.

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Check out the Justice League episodes "A Better World" (or read about it here) to see what happens when Superman decieds to step over the line

Oh and...

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As to Lex's plan being a little odd, has anyone heard Charles Manson's plan for a global race war? It was actually way weirder, with the added disadvantage of not being in so many words possible.

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Gillian

"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

You mean he was actually able to string a sentence together coherently enough to write a plan?

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Another Judging Amy quote: "Hey, Charles Hanson was a misunderstood musician and poet!" (The character who says this is reprimanded for wearing a Charles Manson t-shirt while looking for an apartment. The next line is something like, "Charles Manson is a mass murderer.")

And his plan wasn't written, exactly, but was in fact based on a combination of his interpretation of the Book of Revelation and the Beatles' White Album. And, no, it wasn't especially coherent. It was, however, weirder than most supervillain plots to rule the world could ever dream of being.

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Gillian

"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Exactly. I want Lex Luthor's plan to have a snowball's chance of working.

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Carl Matherly

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Um, I meant Luthor's plan was actually more feasible than Manson's, given advanced Kryptonian technology.

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Gillian

"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Ah, my bad.

Still, saying Luthor's plan was better than Mansons was kind of damning with faint praise, wouldn't you say?

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Carl Matherly

Offical Battlestar Galactica Apologist

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True enough, but it's a real-world example of a plan crazier and less feasible than a plot device in a superhero movie.

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Gillian

"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

It should have been AN-225 with MAKS