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Old 30-June-2006, 11:51 PM
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I was browsing Wikipedia and I somehow made it to the 2006 Superman movie, and being a frequent BABlog reader I knew he would comment on something I saw:

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The film opens with a short explantion of the plot up to the present. Krypton's destruction as a result of its star, a red dwarf, going supernova.
My first thought was "red dwarfs don't go supernova" noting again that I am a frequent BABlog reader... Infact my initial thought on this was the universe hasn't been around long enough for one thing, universe is around 14 billion years old right? Red dwarfs have been thought to live for around 100 billion to 6 trillion (6 trillion is on the impossibly high spectrum) years roughly, and even then they don't end in a bang.

I found it quite funny, as I've known what hollywood can do to scientific knowledge, even at a basic level. Also, in Phil's article I noticed how he said something along the lines of "Red Giant" which is false, is it not? Krypton was said to orbit a red dwarf (as brought up previously)

Anyways, I haven't watched the movie and due to all the anti-science in it I don't think I would want to, since now every time I watch the movie "Armageddon" I now tend to point every bit of inaccurate information I see in it (which is quite a lot, yes?)

Odd way to make a first impression on a forum, but I'm often well thought-out. I loved the review of Superman returns, even though I didn't read some of it... By the way Phil, I caught the Sci-Fi special with you in it a while back, but the show generally disappointed me. Anyone else notice the sound in space?
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Well, it's probable that he meant "red giant." Was this taken from official press material, or just a guy writing a review on the web?
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Old 01-July-2006, 07:14 PM
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Well.. Uh.. It was Wikipedia, and usually has correct information on well.. Everything.
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Well.. Uh.. It was Wikipedia, and usually has correct information on well.. Everything.
Already BEEN Fixed ...

Ah ...

Gotta Love Wikipedia!

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Old 01-July-2006, 11:42 PM
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I have hope. That's why I edit it. I figure changing it is better than complaining about it.
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I have hope. That's why I edit it. I figure changing it is better than complaining about it.
Me Too ...

One Tiime Though, I Fixed an Inconsistancy in an Article, and One of The Mods Called me a Vandal ...

SOME Gratitude, Huh?

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Me Too ...

One Tiime Though, I Fixed an Inconsistancy in an Article, and One of The Mods Called me a Vandal ...

SOME Gratitude, Huh?

Did you use standard punctuation or yours?
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Did you use standard punctuation or yours?
COMPLETELY Standard ...

What Really Bugged me, Was If The Mod Had Actually Clicked on The Link I'd Helpfully Provided ...

It Pre-Corroborated My Assertion!

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Already BEEN Fixed ...

Ah ...

Gotta Love Wikipedia!

Even being fixed as Phil pointed out in his review, Red Giants don't go boom-boom.
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Old 03-July-2006, 04:19 AM
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Even being fixed as Phil pointed out in his review, Red Giants don't go boom-boom.
Eh ...

I'm Gonna Give That a Pass, As a Distinction Without a Difference ...

Most of The Viewing Public Won't Notice The Inconsistency Anyway, And BORING them Would Only Serve, to Make it a Moot Point!

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I suspect that the Superman comics of old never said "red giant"
or "red dwarf", but merely "red star".

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I saw this over the weekend. It was supposed to be a red giant. It collapsed down to a white dwarf then exploded with a pair of 'Praxis rings' A few seconds later the planet exploded and sent debris throughout the galaxy. One planet had a dual ring system, one set about 60 degrees off from the first, with giant (3/4 planet diameters) spikes sticking out one side.

The opening sequence had a lot of Bad Astronomy in it, and there was more sprinkled through out the movie in different places. On was a reference to the "28 known galaxies", another that I'm not sure I heard corrently was that superman was zipping around the globe at nearly the speed of light. In the atmosphere. No word on the damage from the shockwave from that. He does go through the sound barrier a lot in the film though, so they seem to know about that...

All in all, a good enough movie, and not really the travesty many were expecting. It's set 5 years after the first one with Christoper Reeve, and yet everyone is 10 years younger...

For the other geeks out there, The Spiderman 3 trailer pretty much comfirms it's the Venom story line.
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Anyways, I haven't watched the movie and due to all the anti-science in it I don't think I would want to
I think it's probably important to remember that what we're dealing with here is a Superman film.....
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I think it's probably important to remember that what we're dealing with here is a Superman film.....
So, does that mean it's to do with a man, that is, super, in some way?
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Anyways, I haven't watched the movie and due to all the anti-science in it I don't think I would want to, since now every time I watch the movie "Armageddon" I now tend to point every bit of inaccurate information I see in it (which is quite a lot, yes?)
Yes.

I tend to look on Superman and other movies with actual superpowers (ie, not Batman) as more fantasy than science fiction, which allows shifting of some of the laws of physics.
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Did anybody notice that the meteorite made of kryptonite that Lex Luther stole from the museum was clearly labled a meteorite and also clearly labled as coming from a mine in Ethiopia?

What the heck? Did the meteorite just happen to fall from the sky into the open mine shaft? Or did it fall onto the earth's surface and then gremlins hid it in the mine?
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Old 08-July-2006, 08:51 AM
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To be fair, that wasn't so much bad science as a memory lapse concerning the timeline of the mythology of Superman, which is odd coming from Bryan Singer, since he's such an avowed Superman fan, apparently.
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To be fair, that wasn't so much bad science as a memory lapse concerning the timeline of the mythology of Superman, which is odd coming from Bryan Singer, since he's such an avowed Superman fan, apparently.
I'm not sure I follow you. Are you talking about meteorites or something else?
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The meteorites would have been found in a mine if it had arrived millions of years before, but it only arrived when Superman did.
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I realize the odds are enormously against it, but couldn't it have, you know, fallen down the mine? Also, if it's an open mine, it could've just landed there.
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