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Grand Senator Bronson from Jerry Pournelle's Mercenary series.
Lore.
Achilles from Ender's Shadow.
"Edgar", the bug in a man suit from Men In Black.
Dr. Emilio Lizardo, Buckaroo Banzai
The Dark Overlord of the Universe, from the art film Howard the Duck.
The T-Rex from Jurassic Park!
The Giant Alien Chick from Dude, Where's My Car!

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Darths Sidious & Vader, Star Wars.
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Darths Sidious & Vader, Star Wars.
Sir Guy of Gisbourne from Robin of Sherwood and of course Dr. Doom!

Q is a great character as well.
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ALL those rotten little teddy bear-like critters in the Star Wars movies, which screw up an otherwise watchable scifi epic..

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And if you want to include utterly inhuman aliens among "best antagonist", I think you can't do better than MorningLightMountain in Peter Hamilton's "Pandora's Star" and its sequel. A hive intelligence similar to Borg or Inhibitors, but far better fleshed out. Hamilton managed to do what I really thought to be impossible -- presented the viewpoint of an intelligence so different as to find humans incomprehensible, and made the reader understand that viewpoint. Which makes MorningLightMountain even more terrifying.
I was going to vote for MorningLightMountain too. Nothing morally ambiguous about THAT antagonist.
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Oh, I forgot; Nixon's Head and Santabot from Futurama. And the original Baltar from the original BG.
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ALL those rotten little teddy bear-like critters in the Star Wars movies, which screw up an otherwise watchable scifi epic..

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Hear, hear!

Lucas had no clue what a great thing he had going with the Wookies. Perhaps The Star Wars Holiday Special clouded his mind, as it still does whenever watched by ordinary mortals.

Meanwhile I nominate the Matmos from Barbarella.
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I agree. For the Ewoks we can probably thank that great antagonist of science fiction, the Marketing Department. Oooo. Make 'em cute and furry and those Ewok dolls will fly off the shelves faster than X-Wing fighters.
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Ah yes. Dukat. An excellent villain for the first six and a half seasons. What speech was that when he declared martial law?
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Anybody still recall the off-beat and bizarre sci-fi cable series Lexx? I figure His Divine Shadow and his sucessor Mantrid probably deserve a mention as well.

The new guy, Prince, who was supposed to be the next Big Bad on the show, until the stinkbomb last season when he became just as much of a lame joke as everything else that was happening. But he'd started scary.
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Ah yes. Dukat. An excellent villain for the first six and a half seasons. What speech was that when he declared martial law?
When the Dominion and the Cardassian Union were allies, the Dominion put Dukat in control as the new leader of the Cardassian Union. Right after he was put in charge, Dukat gave a great little speech, seen by the crew of DS9 on video. Basically, he tells everyone that he is now in charge(and he looked so pleased with himself!) and that martial law was being put into place. Of course, he then went into the penalties for disobeying him - Death!!

Then later in the episode, dissaster struck! DS9 was recaptured by the Federation and poor Dukat lost the power that was given to him by his Dominion overlords. He looked so sad. He just kept saying "I had it", "I had it"!!! Truly sad.
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I nominate Number Six from Battlestar Galactica (season 1, which is as far as I have watched so far ... will be getting season 2 boxed set soon I hope).
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I nominate Number Six from Battlestar Galactica (season 1, which is as far as I have watched so far ... will be getting season 2 boxed set soon I hope).
I nominate Number One from The Prisoner (whoever that was! & those 'bubbles' ).
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Now how could I of forgotten these favourites!

Servalan from Blake's Seven.

DuQuesne from E.E.Doc Smith's Skylark novels.
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Lucifer, from the original BG, with his oh-so-insincere "By your command".
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I nominate Number One from The Prisoner (whoever that was! & those 'bubbles' ).
Rover.

Well, he was called that in precisely one episode!
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Roy, you've raised a good point. Servalan is an even better baddie than Number Six.
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Well, he was called that in precisely one episode!
Oh yes that rings a bell, that's what the 'bubbles' were called wasn't it?
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Excellent choice. You could almost make a case for Avon, ruthless anti-hero that he was.
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Excellent choice. You could almost make a case for Avon, ruthless anti-hero that he was.
Doh!Of course. One of my favourite actors
Tarrent was pretty rubbish as villain/henchman, Servalan was great
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The evil one from Time Bandits. Warner played Sark in Tron.
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I got a special kick out of the Emperor of the Daleks from the end of Dr Who, season 1 (new series). Not that he was particularly effective, but the voice effects were neat.
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Star Trek's Q . Not really evil, but should be on the list.

The Shrike from the Hyperion Saga. A mysterious machinegod from the future who can manipulate time and has knives for fingers on his 4 arms.

Oh, Morbo and the ruler of Omicron Persei 8! (Futurama)
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Dr. Smith from Lost in Space (the TV series) mostly by virtue of always being played to the hilt by character actor Jonathan Harris.
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The slimey corporate lord of Mars, Cohagen from Total Recall. "C'mon Cohagen, give dese people AIR!"
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Star Trek's Q . Not really evil, but should be on the list.
Well, of course, "antagonist" and "evil" are not the same thing. I mean, you do get more than a few evil antagonists. However, literally speaking, an antagonist is merely someone who opposes the protagonist.
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can Q really be called an antagonist? it turned out in the end that he was merely observing and trying to help the humans pass the test and be allowed to continue existing. sure, he might have meddled here and there, and made things tougher for Picard and crew from time to time, but he was doing it for their own good. it was really actually tough love.
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