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Old 26-June-2007, 04:10 PM
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I don't recall exactly, also it would be hard for me to really describe it if I could remember. Most of the ones I saw were two hour episodes made by editing two other episodes together. One I do recall was the one where Apollo was in the little room listening for any kind of radio transmission. He left the ship and and ended up having to have an old west style shoot out with a cylon. It ended with the TV transmissions from Apollo 11. The way I saw them, that was one episode.
That may have been one of the "mixed" movies that were released on VHS in the eighties. They were made up of bits and pieces of different episodes of the original TV series, and were generally a mess. In the series, the western-style shootout with the Cylon and the Apollo radio transmission were part of different episodes.

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As for the Vipers running out of fuel and stopping, I just remember that when they ran out of fuel, the top engine always went out first. As the engines would fail, the craft would slowdown, sometimes with a forward lurch from the pilot, like someone hit the brakes. I was 10 and I knew it was wrong. I may be remembering it wrong, but I know there was something about it that bugged me, and it had to do with inertia.
There were certainly things to be bugged about in BG, but I'm not sure that your memory is accurate in this particular respect. I'm not saying you're mistaken, either. I'm just not sure.
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Old 26-June-2007, 04:28 PM
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As for the Vipers running out of fuel and stopping, I just remember that when they ran out of fuel, the top engine always went out first.
Of course, gravity leaves the last bit of fuel on the bottom.

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As the engines would fail, the craft would slowdown, sometimes with a forward lurch from the pilot, like someone hit the brakes.
Actually; that particular point is not that far fetched if the engines were causing an acceleration. Unfortunately, no acceleration was depicted.
Of course, it would have to be more of a rebound (like the cushions of the chair releasing the pressure)

Banked turns, thrusting through a turn...all sorts of things.

How about this...spaceships that change configuration before accelerating. Like nacelles tilting, wings expanding, etc.
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Old 26-June-2007, 04:53 PM
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Another one that bothers me is the fact that in movies, everyone has the lungs and swimming ability of a pearl diver. They can apparently stay underwater for several minutes while moving heavy objects or fighting badguys, all without needing to take a breath.
Another good one!

Sure, dive into unknown water and swim underwater for several minutes to where there might be an opening - forget that. I'll stay behind and fight the monsters!
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Old 26-June-2007, 05:26 PM
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In the series, the western-style shootout with the Cylon and the Apollo radio transmission were part of different episodes.
IIRC, it was Starbuck who had the shootout, in the ep where he became "sherrif".
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Old 26-June-2007, 05:59 PM
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The good guy who throws down his gun to be on equal terms with the gun-less bad guy when they fight it out. Just shoot them.
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The good guy who throws down his gun to be on equal terms with the gun-less bad guy when they fight it out. Just shoot them.

Beautifully done in Raiders of the Lost Ark. The whole one-on-one machismo fight thing was parodied wonderfully in an episode of Firefly.

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The good guy who throws down his gun to be on equal terms with the gun-less bad guy when they fight it out. Just shoot them.
Or the western sheriff who must wait for the bad guy to draw first. I wonder how many times that really happened?
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Beautifully done in Raiders of the Lost Ark!
I read somewhere that Harrison Ford felt like crap that day because he was sick and just did that as an improv and the producer/director liked it so much that they did the scene that way instead. Maybe someone can verify this.
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Old 26-June-2007, 06:19 PM
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IIRC, it was Starbuck who had the shootout, in the ep where he became "sherrif".
Starbuck became sheriff and had to fight some local aliens, but it was Apollo who fought the Cylon. This was in different episodes.

P.S. Amazing, there's still one up.
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Speaking of BSG, I think it was on this board that someone complained about the way Vipers land in the docking bay, coming in pretty fast, then bouncing a time or two on the hard deck.

Which doesn't make sense. Sure, it looks like our aircraft-carrier-based landings, but our fighters have to do that because if they slowed down to the speed of the carrier, their engines would stall. But in BSG, unless I'm mistaken, Vipers can easily match speed with Galactica, then gently drop into position--no twisting of landing gear necessary.

I've also heard the same about Indiana Jones. The script called for a complicated sword/bullwhip duel, but Ford was suffering from diarrhea that day and just wanted to be done. Spielberg liked his impromptu action and kept it.
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I read somewhere that Harrison Ford felt like crap that day because he was sick and just did that as an improv and the producer/director liked it so much that they did the scene that way instead. Maybe someone can verify this.

I can verify that I've heard that story.
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Old 26-June-2007, 06:42 PM
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I read somewhere that Harrison Ford felt like crap that day because he was sick and just did that as an improv and the producer/director liked it so much that they did the scene that way instead. Maybe someone can verify this.
I can also verify that I heard this story, but with a slight difference. In the version that I've heard, Ford (along with a good portion of the crew) was feeling ill, and when it came time to film the duel with the swordsman, he said to Spielberg, "Can't I just shoot him?" Spielberg agreed, and the rest is history.

I can neither confirm nor deny whether there is any factual basis to this story.
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But in BSG, unless I'm mistaken, Vipers can easily match speed with Galactica, then gently drop into position--no twisting of landing gear necessary.
I think that whenever we've seen that happen, it was during a "combat landing" where the Viper pilot really didn't want to slow down due to the possibility of Raider Induced Acute Death Syndrom. I also remember botched landing in training, but I had assumed they were practicing combat landings.
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Beautifully done in Raiders of the Lost Ark. The whole one-on-one machismo fight thing was parodied wonderfully in an episode of Firefly.

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II can neither confirm nor deny whether there is any factual basis to this story.
Here's what Snopes has to say about it.
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In the Indiana Jones scene, you see the gun being drawn and fired and the other guy immediately falling all in one take with no edit cut and both men on screen throughout. So either that was planned ahead (perhaps as a subsequent quicky retake after the initial improv by HF that didn't get into the movie), or the other actor is the real improv genius here. He would have had to figure out what HF was doing and how to play along with it in very little time.
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Let's not forget the confrontation the bad guy shrugs off his/her minions, saying "Back off, boys--I'll handle this loser myself!" (or a variant on this sentence), which of course is a cue that he/she is going to lose, badly.
Good one! In real life it would be something like this:

"Back off, boys--I'll handle this loser myself! But if he gets the upper hand kill him!"
Or all the James Bond bad guys who come up with this elaborate complicated schemes to kill him (and which all give him an opportunity to escape). Note to self - if we capture James Bond, immediately hold gun to his head and kill him.
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In the Indiana Jones scene, you see the gun being drawn and fired and the other guy immediately falling all in one take with no edit cut and both men on screen throughout. So either that was planned ahead (perhaps as a subsequent quicky retake after the initial improv by HF that didn't get into the movie), or the other actor is the real improv genius here. He would have had to figure out what HF was doing and how to play along with it in very little time.
However it came about, I'm sure the final take was after several takes.
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Old 26-June-2007, 07:03 PM
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Or all the James Bond bad guys who come up with this elaborate complicated schemes to kill him (and which all give him an opportunity to escape). Note to self - if we capture James Bond, immediately hold gun to his head and kill him.
This was nicely parodied in the Austin Powers films, where Dr. Evil's son Scott says, "Why don't you just shoot him? I have a gun in my room. I can go ge