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Old 25-October-2007, 07:02 PM
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Heck, in the actual Bible, God lets Satan torture Job, and kill all his friends, relatives and employees, and even his livestock, just to win an argument.
Yes, in Book of Job God basically makes a bet with Satan. But there is a big difference between betting one man plus his family, and betting the entire world.

Unless God has a really big gambling problem
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Unless God has a really big gambling problem
Einstein: "God does not play dice with the Universe."

God: "Wanna bet?"
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Old 26-October-2007, 10:54 PM
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The artifact based on bad mythology is always found at the exact time of the heavenly event, based on bad astronomy, that makes it Very Dangerous.
Also, heroes have a "good luck" power- any scientists they visit will make a remarkable discovery while the hero is around.
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Old 27-October-2007, 12:31 AM
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Also, heroes have a "good luck" power-
If they didn't, they'd never survive the first five minutes of the film.
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Old 27-October-2007, 12:58 AM
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One movie cliché that gets on my nerves (and I am not even a Christian!) is that world will end/Satan will emerge victorious if certain manuscript is found/certain incantation spoken/certain child born/certain demon walks through a certain gate/etc. – and the heroes must prevent this from happening. Examples are "End of Days", "Warlock", "Dogma", or "Wishmaster".

In a generic fantasy setting that’s not a bad premise – if you accept supernatural, why not accept that something supernatural can end the world? But in Judeo-Christian setting, which such movies almost always have, it’s terrible. Basically, it means that God cedes the world to Satan if some completely arbitrary event occures. Why would God do that?

Always hated that sort of thing.
It's rather complicated and perfectly understood by those raised with the Christian Bible. Unfortunately, Hollywood tends to garble exactly what John's Revelation is talking about.

According to the Revelations, there will be a period of tribulations as the Anti-Christ takes over the world and rules it for a period of time. There is a series of plagues and signs that foreshadow the End of World before God steps in and creates his ultimate paradise.

The reasoning behind thses Hollywood stories is that it is Satan that will determine the beginning of the tribulations and not God.
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One movie cliché that gets on my nerves (and I am not even a Christian!) is that world will end/Satan will emerge victorious if certain manuscript is found/certain incantation spoken/certain child born/certain demon walks through a certain gate/etc. – and the heroes must prevent this from happening. Examples are "End of Days", "Warlock", "Dogma", or "Wishmaster".

In a generic fantasy setting that’s not a bad premise – if you accept supernatural, why not accept that something supernatural can end the world? But in Judeo-Christian setting, which such movies almost always have, it’s terrible. Basically, it means that God cedes the world to Satan if some completely arbitrary event occures. Why would God do that?

Always hated that sort of thing.
Cedes to Satan, or uses Satan to punish/try mankind (like in the Book of Job)? Anyway, the conversation is getting dangerously religious.
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Old 27-October-2007, 11:26 PM
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Every heroine that I admired at nine, no matter how tough they were, whether it was Padme Amidala or Princess Fiona, still ended up needing to be rescued by, and falling for, the hero.
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Every heroine that I admired at nine, no matter how tough they were, whether it was Padme Amidala or Princess Fiona, still ended up needing to be rescued by, and falling for, the hero.
Right, Damsels in Distress haven't disappeared, they just complain loudly or punch out some minions before getting captured.
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Old 28-October-2007, 01:04 PM
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I showed my brother a comic I had drawn recently. The premise is that, in the Marvel Universe, Tony Stark has joined with Virgin Galactic, but these evil spies attack, and Iron Man has to save the day. I had a really great scene where one of the spies tries to catch Rutan, but he steals the guy's blaster and sticks up the spy, saying "Never mess with a pilot." At the end, I asked my brother if he liked the real-life characters.
"Well, I didn't like how you had Burt Rutan act."
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"Because the regular people aren't supposed to fight back. They're supposed to scream and sit there until the superheroes save them. I didn't come to see the ordinary people!"
I've been wondering about that ever since. Thoughts?
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Every heroine that I admired at nine, no matter how tough they were, whether it was Padme Amidala or Princess Fiona, still ended up needing to be rescued by, and falling for, the hero.
ridley in "alien"?

the sharon stone film with crowe and hackman. she kills hackman, the end.

bette davis in "jezabel"

there are a number of others where the woman succeeds wholly on her own.
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ridley in "alien"?

the sharon stone film with crowe and hackman. she kills hackman, the end.

bette davis in "jezabel"

there are a number of others where the woman succeeds wholly on her own.
There are a few exceptions. The majority either fall into the Horror/Slasher formula (virgin survives, all others die) or the Action/Adventure formula (girl/MacGuffin captured, hero man wades through minions/goons to or in Boss fortress, Boss fight occurs, hero rescues girl/Macguffin.)
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I didn't watch that when I was nine. Too scary. (That's still why I haven't watched it.)
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Burt Rutan act."
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"Because the regular people aren't supposed to fight back. They're supposed to scream and sit there until the superheroes save them. I didn't come to see the ordinary people!"
I've been wondering about that ever since. Thoughts?
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Old 28-October-2007, 09:30 PM
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I know that. But remember, this is my little brother we're talking about here.
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I know that. But remember, this is my little brother we're talking about here.
How can I "remember" what I didn't know? Your post had no age listed for your brother.
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Old 28-October-2007, 09:50 PM
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How can I "remember" what I didn't know? Your post had no age listed for your brother.
Sorry. I'm young and he's a whole Olympiad younger. Any other comments about that little anecdote?
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