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Old 30-November-2007, 09:15 PM
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I saw commercials for re-runs, but I was always too scared to watch it. Same with So Wierd.

I remeber that show too.
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Out-of-control antics on snow. I don't care if it's runaway sleds or people skiing; it's not only old, it's idiotic. Fall down, morons, it's snow! Solids don't get much cuddlier than snow.
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Old 03-December-2007, 09:36 PM
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Out-of-control antics on snow. I don't care if it's runaway sleds or people skiing; it's not only old, it's idiotic. Fall down, morons, it's snow! Solids don't get much cuddlier than snow.
Chases by ski. So overused. A good spy should know to have a secret snow cave to duck into and leave their oponent chasing nothing.
Within five minutes of somebody mentioning that there could be traps, one springs.
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Chases by ski. So overused. A good spy should know to have a secret snow cave to duck into and leave their oponent [...]
... Able to follow the tracks through the snow right to where the spy is now quite trapped. Fresh snow is the worst surface in the world to attempt to lose a chaser, even with a sizable head start.
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... Able to follow the tracks through the snow right to where the spy is now quite trapped. Fresh snow is the worst surface in the world to attempt to lose a chaser, even with a sizable head start.
Not true! You simply run in every direction, and then your pursuer won't know which set of tracks to follow. Simple!
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Running backwards doesn't help, a backwardsset of prints looks different.
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Not true! You simply run in every direction, and then your pursuer won't know which set of tracks to follow. Simple!
Tracks that have been walked through once look different than tracks that have been walked through twice, even backwards.

While you're busy wandering around laying tracks around some hub, your pursuer is busy catching up to you.

If you lay a lot of tracks and loop a bunch of times, your pursuer merely needs to circle around the hub in a radius larger than your loops. The track that crosses that circle once is the right one. And I guarantee I can make that circle faster than you can lay the false tracks.

The solution is this: move fast, move straight. Find a car, get into it, and drive like hell. Hitch-hike, beg, borrow, buy, steal. Get wheels and move. Get out of "Dodge" just as fast as you can. A stern-chase on foot in snow is not a favorable environment for the guy in the lead.
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Moose, you may be right, but you are just NOT in a cliche' frame of mind.

The best thing would be to make a big snowman. When the bad guy walks up to it, smirks and fills it full of lead the hero rises from the snow he buried himself in behind the villain and klunks him in the head. Then he turns away without making sure the villain is completely incapaciated and...
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Old 04-December-2007, 01:02 AM
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The doctor cannot do anything about whaterver is wrong with the patient.
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Moose, you may be right, but you are just NOT in a cliche' frame of mind.
Snow survival is firmly in a class of clichés that get on my nerves only slightly less certainly than Hollywood computing does.

It's pretty much the same reason why Blair Witch Project annoyed the living heck out of me. With the information readily available in the movie, when token-guy number two announced he deliberately ditched the map, I had no fewer than three workable navigational strategies even these fool lay folks couldn't possibly botch by the fifth expletive.

Simplest of them is this: if you're truly lost in the woods, find running water (like the water these turkeys were standing in), a brook or river, and follow it downstream. Walk in the water if you can't walk along it. But follow the river downstream.

You do this for three reasons: 1) you will eventually find a settlement, a road, or the ocean, 2) You'll have water to boil, purify and drink as needed (you did bring your purifier tablets, right?), 3) a ready supply of brook trout pan-fries for the win. (You did bring your line and a hook, didn't you?)
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The doctor cannot do anything about whaterver is wrong with the patient.
They know exactly what the problem is almost immediately, but they can't cure it (but they know exactly where the cure is and who has it). Or they don't and the local shaman/medicine man/crazy Aunt Sadie/homeless man does, and the doctor scoffs at their primitive notions.
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Simplest of them is this: if you're truly lost in the woods, find running water (like the water these turkeys were standing in), a brook or river, and follow it downstream. Walk in the water if you can't walk along it. But follow the river downstream.
You do this for three reasons: 1) you will eventually find a settlement, a road, or the ocean, 2) You'll have water to boil, purify and drink as needed (you did bring your purifier tablets, right?), 3) a ready supply of brook trout pan-fries for the win. (You did bring your line and a hook, didn't you?)
You don't need a hook and line, just some dental floss and a safety pin can work in a stretch.
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Snow survival is firmly in a class of clichés that get on my nerves only slightly less certainly than Hollywood computing does.

It's pretty much the same reason why Blair Witch Project annoyed the living heck out of me. With the information readily available in the movie, when token-guy number two announced he deliberately ditched the map, I had no fewer than three workable navigational strategies even these fool lay folks couldn't possibly botch by the fifth expletive.

Simplest of them is this: if you're truly lost in the woods, find running water (like the water these turkeys were standing in), a brook or river, and follow it downstream. Walk in the water if you can't walk along it. But follow the river downstream.
It wasn't too clear in the movie, but they DID try to follow a stream. Somehow, they wound up circling back to their starting point. At this point, the viewer is clued in that the Blair Witch is hunting them
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Old 04-December-2007, 08:12 AM
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