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I bet someone is feeling pretty silly right now

I wonder if someone will get the order of the boot over this

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Now they know how I felt when I triped just after the starting line in a televised Track Meet, skinned my knee and arms, and got all dirty. (I still beat five runners, though)

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There was nothing wrong with the course, there were just so many runners that I tripped on somebody's foot.

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Just responding to this.

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Previously reported in topics:
Non-NEO Alert!
Extremely close flyby by asteroid 2007 VN84 on November 13

Not really, because 1) It builds support for the idea that there is a need for a database of artificial objects astronomers can check a discovered object against, and 2) It still demonstrates the remarkable skills our guardians have to be able to spot and give warning of such a tiny object of insignificant threat.

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People seem to think there is something faintly amusing about an observed NEO turning out to be a spacecraft. I'd be more concerned if it were not detected, and see no reason to separate the classes of objects with such rigour.

So what do they mean by

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They would hardly reuse the designation.

I would imagine that, in time, as the number of artificial objects in solar orbit increases, then there would be a common database, with a naming convention that embraces comets, asteroids, probes, even manned craft, and anything undetermined - and also allows for a change of object class.

Sounds like the NEO-watchers could use some more advanced equipment than they currently have - stuff that could somehow discern between space probes and asteroids. Higher-resolution cameras/telescopes should do the trick.

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Certainly it would be good to be able to discern the class of a NEO, but some of the rocks are around the same size as probes.

Probes (active or defunct, and there might eventually be quite a few) in potential collision orbits should surely be identified by the same process as natural NEOs.

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For some reason this did seem to come across as someone with egg on their face trying to off load the blame.

Will this mean that in the future there will be less chance of a miss-identification?

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But why should it?

If they get some cash so that they can afford updated equipment.

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Some of the best NEO watching telescopes don't need high angular resolution as much as they need huge fields of view. The bigger the FOV, and the more light gathering, the better odds of spotting something. Resolving more than a point of light for any given rock would require a much longer focal length than what you really want in a NEO watcher, and a much bigger apperture than you really need for the job. The key to success in catching these things is not to have one gigantic super expensive scope, it's to have a whole army of smaller automated scopes watching as much of the sky every night as possible. That's why even well-equipped amateurs can make contributions.

So did anyone get any cool pictures of Rosetta as it flew by?

Well others are resurecting one year old threads

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I can see potential for space-based systems in this. Orbiting wide-field telescopes combined with telescopes of longer length. Locate something on the wide field and examine it more closely with the longer optic. Expensive to maintain, but it's an interesting possibility.

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