I never noticed the zipper on the dress, I'll have to keep an eye out for it. And I don't really enjoy that movie all that much (seeing once was enough)

Pete

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There's so much I don't know about astrophysics. I wish I had read that book by that wheelchair guy.

I saw it in the theatre with a bunch of my ren faire friends. Most of us were wearing more authentic costumes than practically anyone onscreen. And at the end, the woman sitting in front of me said, "Oh, my God!"

So I said, "What?"

"Zipper!"

And the camera made another circle 'round Our Hero and his lady, and I said, "Oh, my God!"

I think it would've worked better as a fantasy piece, if we'd all just pretended that it wasn't really history. Because the history was very bad.

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Apparently life 12,000 years ago was nasty, brutish and poorly plotted, and without even any CGI dinosaurs to liven things up.

Yabba-dabba-don't.

...big, climactic fight, complete with an epic snuffleupagus rampage...

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Currently at an astonishing 8% on the Tomatometer.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10000_bc/

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

I wish they had made this movie instead.Other than some nekkid wimmins, not much, brother, not much.

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i read that it only grossed $37 million dollars in three days..
what a disappointment. i don't know how much it cost to make it- but i'm sure it will break even on it's worldwide theater run, then make that much more in DVD sales when it comes out.
sounds like a dismal failure to me....

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Wow. That's only 2% higher than Gigli...

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we could always go to this strandard for time.
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/JulianDate.php

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Don't forget promotional costs. They're often the same amount spent on actually making the film in the first place. Further, the studio only gets half of the box office take; the rest goes to the theatre. In short, it'll take a lot of sales for this particular turkey to break even!

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

I saw it, and posted some comments that were lost in the server move.
I think it might be possible to make a historically accurate interesting movie taking place about 10,000 BC(E). This wasn't it. I can say that the time I spent watching it passed fairly quickly, even with the huge number of "that's wrong" moments. I regret to say that I didn't notice the zipper. I'm usually pretty fussy about things like that, and it escaped my notice altogether.

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One COULD speculate about a lost Pre-Egyptian civilization that might have built great structures before the dawn of written history. We COULD speculate they may have domesticated LOCAL mega-fauna. And we COULD tell a tale of primitive peoples --- maybe from post-Ice Age Europe --- who might discover that lost civilization.

But it just looks like the makers '10,000 BC' just went nuts trying to make agoofy Hollywood movie, rather than sticking with the basic premise.

As somebody else said, it's as if they tried to remake 'One Million Years B.C' without Raquel Welch. Not good.

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The zipper was in A Knight's Tale. I haven't seen 10,000 BC yet, and I don't plan to.

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Gillian

"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

My son keeps asking me to take him to see this movie. Of course he has seen the ads on tv and thinks they look very cool. I've been holding off, hoping that the movie stops showing at the theatres quickly. Later, we can just rent the dvd. Reading some of the comments here, reinforces my resolve to not see this movie. Thanks.

Just found piccy of Camilla Belle in 10.000BC, can someone who saw the movie tell me (without too many spoilers) if that dress is supposed to have been made 12.000 years ago?

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The clothes are strangely modern-looking. In the Camille pic, the other people are wearing stuff that looks like modern T-shirts and sweaters that have been chopped up.

Couldn't they at least find some togas and desert-appropriate garb?

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The zipper was in A Knight's Tale.

Actually, that doesn't bother me since "A Knight's Tale" never tried to be historically accurate. After all, the crowd at the joust at the beginning of the movie was singing Queen's "We Will Rock You." Little things like that suggest the movie was trying to have fun rather than take itself seriously. Funny movie, IMO.

According to the filmmakers, the reason they did that was to show the people's connection with the music. If they used actual period music, we wouldn't know that, apparently. And I'm fine with a lack of historical accuracy, provided they don't try to use historical characters and real places. Once you throw in Geoffrey Chaucer and Edward of Woodstock (not called the Black Prince until some time after his death), you're getting into history and need to leave out the zippers. It's not like it's difficult to do. (And yes, I think it's funny, too. There are still some things that bother me, though. Like the whole concept behind the plot.)

Henrik, I think I have that dress, only in a different colour.

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Here's another review.

"In a nutshell: Dumb prehistoric quest adventure with lots of CGI mammoths and nary an original thought in its Cro-Magnon head."

Glenn Whipp had a review as well, and it includes the Ten Commandments of Prehistoric Movies.

The History Channel ran a show last light, Journey to 10,000 BC, but as usual they got everything wrong. No one attacked a prehistoric civilization, no one formed alliances with mammoths and sabre-toothed cats, and there wasn't even one pyramid!

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Funny, funny stuff! The ninth is my favorite, of course.

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"The Mayan symbol for "book" looks a lot like a triple hamburger, but I've never seen them claiming it as proof the Mayans had Big Macs." - KaiYeves
"Distance doesn’t matter much in space, where if you just start a thing off with the right kind of shove, sooner or later it will get where you want it to go." -Frederik Pohl, Mining the Oort

Well, what kind of criteria is a kid supposed to have to want to see a movie? It's a fantasy film for, crying out loud. Why should the forum wet blankets have any impact on what the kid wants to see?

Your resolve(particularly when it's based on pedantic problems with some big budget fantasy flick!) to not see the film should have very little to do with your son's interest, should it?

I doubt anyone here who was a kid in 1977 wanted to see STAR WARS for any more sophisticated a reason than "it looks cool". (Of course, alot of these same folks did the same exact thing 22 years later...now that's a different story! )

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Yes, but that's different; Star Wars (the first) actually delivered on the coolness it advertised. But most of the time, the ads are the coolest part of a film.

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"The Mayan symbol for "book" looks a lot like a triple hamburger, but I've never seen them claiming it as proof the Mayans had Big Macs." - KaiYeves
"Distance doesn’t matter much in space, where if you just start a thing off with the right kind of shove, sooner or later it will get where you want it to go." -Frederik Pohl, Mining the Oort

That's ex post facto. It just had to sell itself on 'the coolness' to make you want to see it as a kid, right? Unless you had to be enticed by an informative roundtable discussion of it's scientific merits and the soundness of it's imagination("...in 12 parsecs"!).

I agree, the ads can often be the best glimpse of a feature film(certainly with trailers constructed the way they are currently, they are meant to be a microcosm of the mother-film! They surely give away most plot points anyhow in the service of assuring audiences what they expect to/hope to/will see.).

Kids want to see movies very often because, quite simply, they look cool. Where's the harm in seeing something that doesn't get the imprimatur of

Did I do myself a grave disservice by actually seeing stuff like THE SWARM, ORCA, KING KONG, LOGAN'S RUN or NIGHTWING(go David Warner!) in a real theater? I don't think so. Was my moviegoing childhood better for not being culturally burdened by boxofficemojo, rottentomatoes or endless internet jibberjabbery? Probably.

Not every film can be STAR WARS. And before you saw that, you couldn't be sure it was either.

Man, when did you folks lose such touch with your inner child? Of course, photorealistic mammoth herds chasing little humans is pretty damn cool looking. Why people can't fess up to it, is headscratching. And would I watch Doug McClure and Peter Cushing battling pteradactyls on strings in a theater today? You betcha!

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Speak for yourself. When I was of any age I'd consider appropriate for seeing 10,000 BC, which is after all PG-13, I was at least equally interested in plot. In fact, I've never really been much of a "Hey, that looks shiny" sort of person. Yes, the main reason I saw The Other Boleyn Girl was the costuming, but had the plot sounded bad enough, I still wouldn't've seen it. Honestly, if someone else hadn't paid, I probably would've waited for DVD.

Personally, I got a great deal out of my childhood viewings of Siskel and Ebert. Not, almost assuredly, for their movie reviews, though they did help me be a more discerning movie-goer, which I didn't and don't think is a bad thing. However, by listening to other people who know more than I about film, I have learned more myself.

By listening to what other people who'd seen it thought, you could get a good idea, though.

That's a cheap excuse, in my opinion. "Who cares if it's bad, because it looks cool and your inner child would dig it?" Feh. My inner child was bored senseless at the recent King Kong. Yes, it looked cool. Also Adrien Brody isn't hard on the eyes. But there was, as Gertrude Stein said of Oakland, no there there. Also, I have to say, it didn't look all that cool. I was much more impressed by the overhead shots of Tudor London in The Other Boleyn Girl or Imperial Rome in Gladiator than the giant bugs of King Kong. The best visual of that movie, so far as I was concerned, was the beauty of the dawn sky toward the end. And Gone with the Wind had a better one--with no CGI needed. (No, it wasn't a matte painting, either.)

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

my favorite historical inaccuracy in a "historical" movie was in "History of the World: part 1" when we see a guy holding a boombox to his ear blasting "Funkytown" in a street scene set in ancient Rome...

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I think an important point is, if the parent isn't going to enjoy the movie, why not spend the time doing something else that both of you will enjoy? That certainly seems more logical than going to a movie that one of you doesn't like. For example, I understand that in America parents like to "play ball" with their children. But I have to admit, if my parents tried to play ball with me I'd assume that they had suffered some sort of brain damage.

DAD: Now you throw the ball to me, son.
CHILD: Why? If you wanted the ball, why did you throw it to me?
DAD: It's a game.
CHILD: No, games are fun. I'm surprised you don't know that.

I don't really want to spend a lot of money going to see a B grade movie. Those kinds of movies are for later viewing on dvd. Prices for everything at the movie theaters are getting way out of hand lately. The last movie that my son had to see was "The day after tomorrow". My wife and my two daughters hated it. I thought that the special effects were good, but the rest of the movie was pretty bad. My son was the only one who liked it. I suspect that going to see 10,000 BC would be a similar experience for us, so I will wait until this movie is available for rental. Judging by it's bad reviews, it won't be long before this movie is on dvd.

The same and many cooler things can be seen in videogames, some TV shows and other easily accessible sources. Nothing unique about that.

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"Distance doesn’t matter much in space, where if you just start a thing off with the right kind of shove, sooner or later it will get where you want it to go." -Frederik Pohl, Mining the Oort

As a rule, if I see aviation gasoline explosions in a preview, and the movie is supposed to be prior to 1925, No point in seeing it.....

Dale

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without too many spoilers, you say? very funny.

Well considering what else has already been said, this won't give too much away. The dress and general cleanliness she displays is after she's been captured and cleaned up by the more advanced civilization. So yes it's supposed to have been made 12000 years ago, but not by mammoth hunters.


by the way, I think this movie is the type that is much better on the big screen. Watching it at home just wouldn't be the same, unless you have a home theater. It's like Cloverfield. I don't think it would have been as good on tv either.

And so what if the movie is full of mistakes. It's not a documentary!


except, none of these people have seen it!