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Old 27-March-2008, 04:48 PM
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Mel Gibson isn't in Apocolypto.
I assumed he was because Jim called it a Mel Gibson movie, but I see he just wrote and directed it. Somehow this doesn't fill me with an appreciably larger desire to watch it.
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Old 27-March-2008, 06:57 PM
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Gravity in particular suffers - after the first scene of the two astronauts walking on the wall of the pod bay in Discovery people act like there is regular gravity there in a later scene. All the velcro on the floor of the pod bay and the tool locker next to it has turned into just flat surfaces. Floyd has a conversation with the Russian captain on the bridge of the Leonov as if he's in normal gravity, then he puts a pen in mid-air.
Magnetic shoes. I think the novel even mentioned that the Russians used them.
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They're not acting like they have magnetic shoes, they're acting like there is gravity. Leaning against a console, or sitting in the parts storage corridor with your shoes up, like Floyd does, kind of shatters the illusion of magnetic shoes.
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Old 27-March-2008, 10:20 PM
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They're not acting like they have magnetic shoes, they're acting like there is gravity. Leaning against a console, or sitting in the parts storage corridor with your shoes up, like Floyd does, kind of shatters the illusion of magnetic shoes.
I didn't say they did it well.

And don't forget that parts of the ship did have spin-gravity, for a while.
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The first scene with the two astronauts walking on the pod bay door wall is great, but the only part of the Discovery that has spin gravity normally is the centerfuge, and it isn't shown at all in 2010 (obviously because it would have been too expensive a set to reconstruct - pitty).
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Old 27-March-2008, 10:54 PM
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And a world in which one can't watch Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome would be a very poor world indeed.
You are being ironic, right???
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Mad Max III: Beyond Thunderdome was kind of fun, but it's mostly a rehash of Mad Max II: The Road Warrior. The best things about MM III were Tina Turner and, well, the Thunderdome.
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"Two men enter! One man leaves!
Two men enter! One man leaves!
Two men enter! One man leaves!"

That's some fine, grade-A cheesy '80s cinema there, and it has aged to perfection.
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I always felt the film had to be judged as completely separate from the novelization, since Kubrick and Clarke had, um, differing views of the human species. Consider 'Paths of Glory', 'The Shining' or 'A Clockwork Orange'.
For that matter, try to compare the movie A Clockwork Orange to the novel, Kubrick and Burgess also have wildly different ideas about what it is to be human.

Ok, it didn't help that he based his script on the American version of the novel where the last chapter had been left out, so he invented his own ending which helped to make it look like he had totally misunderstood the novel.
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You are being ironic, right???
Even if you dismiss 99.9% of the run from the movie, the fight sequence in Thunderdome still ranks WAY up near the top as one of the most original and best choreographed fight sequences in any movie.

Heck, I doubt Darth Bonebrain lighting off his double ended glowbat managed to unseat it.

Of course, to me, Thunderdome was probably the most candy-butted of the series, much less raw than the previous two. What with the kids and all, it felt like a post-apocalyptic Disney movie...
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Old 30-March-2008, 04:23 PM
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Even if you dismiss 99.9% of the run from the movie, the fight sequence in Thunderdome still ranks WAY up near the top as one of the most original and best choreographed fight sequences in any movie.
Was that the thing with the bungees?

It's been many years since I saw it. In my memory it was just a generic arena scene - which struck me as implausible at the time because the audience seemed unconcerned that any one of them (including the boss man) might get killed in the course of the fight.

Next time it's on I'll check it out - perhaps I failed to give it due appreciation. But I certainly don't feel that my life has been enriched by the film.

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Heck, I doubt Darth Bonebrain lighting off his double ended glowbat managed to unseat it.
That made no impression either. I haven't even bothered to watch the third prequel.

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Of course, to me, Thunderdome was probably the most candy-butted of the series, much less raw than the previous two. What with the kids and all, it felt like a post-apocalyptic Disney movie...
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To point #1 (doing it this way, because the lack of stack quoting on this forum makes responses difficult without losing context): Yeah, that was it. As for the danger, consider the environment. Civilization is on its last legs, people aren't exactly impressed by the value of their own lives anymore, they just want a little excitement before they die.

To #2: Don't blame you. These scenes don't exactly appeal to the higher brain functions.

To #3: Well, we agree on that, at least.
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The first scene with the two astronauts walking on the pod bay door wall is great, but the only part of the Discovery that has spin gravity normally is the centerfuge, and it isn't shown at all in 2010 (obviously because it would have been too expensive a set to reconstruct - pitty).
I meant the Russian ship (forgot the name, it's been a long time since I saw either one)
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The Leonov has gravity problems too. People on the bridge act as if it has full gravity throughout the movie except for one scene where Floyd suddenly puts a pen in mid-air and it stays there.
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The Leonov has gravity problems too. People on the bridge act as if it has full gravity throughout the movie except for one scene where Floyd suddenly puts a pen in mid-air and it stays there.
Yeah, we just talked about that a few posts back.
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I just watched it tonight (2001). When I first saw it I was 11 years old. But after reading the book as an adult, I understand it. I consider it the best science fiction movie ever made.

Star Wars, IMHO, is not science fiction, it is a space opera that was based on a Kurosawa 1950s samurai movie called "The Hidden Fortress"
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Star Wars, IMHO, is not science fiction, it is a space opera that was based on a Kurosawa 1950s samurai movie called "The Hidden Fortress"
According to Lucas, it's also largely based on the old movie serials, and having seen more than a few of those, I'm inclined to believe him. That said, if it's got FTL travel, it's science fiction.
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According to Lucas, it's also largely based on the old movie serials, and having seen more than a few of those, I'm inclined to believe him. That said, if it's got FTL travel, it's science fiction.
So if I write a story about a giant swan that can fly to another star in a few minutes, that's FTL travel and I've written science fiction?
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So if I write a story about a giant swan that can fly to another star in a few minutes, that's FTL travel and I've written science fiction?
Depends how you handle it. Asimov's story "Pate' de Fois Gras" was about a goose that laid golden eggs.

On the other hand, imagine goose droppings from here to Alpha Centauri.
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