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Old 21-March-2008, 08:55 PM
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Thumbs down Yahoo Movies disses 2001!

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/10mo...naccurate.html

listing it among the 10 most historically inaccurate movies. Well, only in the same sense you could list Orwell's 1984. 10,000 BC made it too.
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Old 21-March-2008, 08:58 PM
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How can a movie portraying a possible future be historically incorrect?
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Old 21-March-2008, 08:59 PM
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According to this film, in year 2001 we would have had manned voyages to Jupiter, a battle of wits with a sentient computer, and a quantum leap in human evolution. Instead we got the Mir Space Station falling from the sky, Windows XP, and Freddy Got Fingered. Apparently the lesson here is that sometimes it's better when the movies get the facts all wrong.

No problems, it is inaccurate. They didn't "dis" them, they simply observed that it's not "historically" factual. (Albeit it shouldn't be listed as a historical movie in the first place...)
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Old 21-March-2008, 09:14 PM
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I always think it's silly when some critic accuses a science fiction story of being "inaccurate" or "dated" because it failed to predict the future. What did he expect?

A science fiction story actually predicting the future is more unlikely than the critic in question winning the lottery jackpot. But it's the story that matters. That's why it's called science fiction.

Anyway, these kinds of "Top 10" lists are just a lighthearted pastime.
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Old 21-March-2008, 09:29 PM
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listing it among the 10 most historically inaccurate movies. Well, only in the same sense you could list Orwell's 1984. 10,000 BC made it too.
They dis 300, too. I don't understand how it's possible to be so dense. 300 was based on a graphic novel that was loosely based on real history. Xerxes, believe it or not, actually didn't have people beheaded by a giant, morbidly obese man--who must weigh at least a metric ton--having biological blades for arms. Nor did he have giant gray-skinned, humanoid monsters with chain collars fight in his army.

In light of these, how can one possibly complain about the age of Senate members, or that Spartans wore armor in real life?--that is without sounding like an idiot.
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Old 22-March-2008, 12:02 AM
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Is Star Trek on their list? We didn't have any sleeper sublight spacecraft in the '90s, nor did we fight a Eugenics War.
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Old 22-March-2008, 12:16 AM
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Is Star Trek on their list? We didn't have any sleeper sublight spacecraft in the '90s, nor did we fight a Eugenics War.
That's just what they want you to think.
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Old 22-March-2008, 05:21 AM
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That's just what they want you to think.
Oh no, I know for sure, because I was fighting in the real secret war in the nineties.
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Let's hope Yahoo never reads our "Lunar Vacation" story.
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Old 22-March-2008, 04:55 PM
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<<A science fiction story actually predicting the future is more unlikely than the critic in question winning the lottery jackpot. But it's the story that matters. That's why it's called science fiction.>>

QFT.
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Old 22-March-2008, 05:11 PM
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They dis 300, too. I don't understand how it's possible to be so dense. 300 was based on a graphic novel that was loosely based on real history. Xerxes, believe it or not, actually didn't have people beheaded by a giant, morbidly obese man--who must weigh at least a metric ton--having biological blades for arms. Nor did he have giant gray-skinned, humanoid monsters with chain collars fight in his army.

In light of these, how can one possibly complain about the age of Senate members, or that Spartans wore armor in real life?--that is without sounding like an idiot.
Perhaps it's because there are still some of us who get our history from reading history books, not comic books.
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300, if looked at as a piece of history, is enormously inaccurate. I don't think much of anyone disputes that. The issue seems to be whether we should look at it as a piece of history or as a fantasization of history, which is different.

I also think it is, indeed, completely ludicrous to call science fiction "inaccurate history" because it didn't come true. What, do they expect perfection? Prescience?

I can also (I haven't looked at the list, but I can already tell you it's true) come up with dozens and dozens of movies with awful history, even leaving out all fantasizations of history, such as A Knight's Tale and Ever After.

Edit: Okay, I've read it now. Really? They really think Elizabeth: The Golden Age is less historically accurate than The Other Boleyn Girl?
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Good to see Braveheart made their inconsequential list. Good for promoting Scottish identity, but historically a big smelly heap.
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Meh. 2001 is a lame, boring flick anyway . . . .
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Old 23-March-2008, 02:43 AM
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Old 23-March-2008, 02:51 AM
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The original short story was cool. But the whole 2001. Blah.
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Old 23-March-2008, 05:34 AM
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That's your opinion. In my opinion, it's still the top science fiction movie out there.
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I think the reviewer needs to be sat down and have it explained and be made to read the book. Then the date of the book and the date of the film need to be explained and the idea when it was written then the story that ACC used to base 2001 on needs to be read and etc etc.
And where is my personal jet pack I was promised in the 60's.
Smacks of Father ted and Dougal near and far episode......

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Either way its in my top ten, usually at number one. But that is my view.
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I'd be another vote for "2001 is as boring as hell".
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2001 is the only science fiction film that makes NASA TV coverage of a space shuttle mission seem "butt cheeks chewing the seat cushion" thrilling in comparison.
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