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Old 21-May-2008, 01:10 AM
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If you haven't watched up to the last episode you probably shouldn't be reading any BSG threads, no.
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Old 21-May-2008, 01:13 AM
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Dax: I don't think there were any spoilers posted. But Publius mentioned that the next episode was already online and I requested that he not discuss it until the official broadcast. Well, that's what I intended to do.

Jason: Thanks for the info. I've missed several episodes, and wasn't aware of some of the Cylon "differences". I guess they aren't quite as human as I thought. They sure are acting alot like humans, though!
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Old 21-May-2008, 01:51 AM
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Actually, the next episode is not online nor posted anywhere that I know of. If it were, I'd be beating down whatever doors I needed to get it, then come May 30th, I'd hate myself for not being able to enjoy it with everyone else. What I posted was a short "sneak peek" preview clip from the next episode. SciFi itself put that out, that site just saved it.

Previews are generally not considered spoilers, at least that's the way most of the discussion boards operate. But I'll grant a sneak preview is a grey area, although it was officially released. So, with that in mind, from now on, I'll put stuff like that in the "Rumor Mill" thread.

I'd go ahead and delete it and move it, but since there were some followup posts discussing it, the authors would all have to move it themselves.

And Tobin, I don't remember what I did with "Crossroads", but if I did spoil it for you where I shouldn't, then I apologize. Sorry. Me, I'm a big spoiler whore, but I do hate myself in the morning.

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Old 21-May-2008, 03:41 AM
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Still not on Hulu yet. Frustrating as heck, considering I came into this show in the proverbial 8th inning.
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Old 21-May-2008, 05:51 PM
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Oh, plus they're stronger than humans and more susceptible to some diseases and specific types of radiation.
The radiation issue was due to the material their neural pathways (or something) are made out of, IIRC, supporting the mechanical aspect again. However, the one disease issue that I remember was when someone sneezed on the probe millenia ago. That was simply due to lack of antibodies, I thought, and not because they are machines.

Publius, thanks. I no longer remember the details, just that you seemed to have gotten excited, and I stumbled across the revelation of the four. I haven't mentioned it until now, so that should show that I'm not upset at you or anything. I'm just wary of your posts, and I am really trying to stay spoiler-free this season. I was a bit stressed last night, too, so I probably over-reacted a bit.

Doodler, if you're referring to old episodes, you can always try renting them or borrowing them from the library. Heck, they're at my local library, and I'm currently living in a small town in Kentucky. Last thing I expected to see there was a bunch of sci-fi shows on DVD.
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Old 22-May-2008, 02:05 AM
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The radiation issue was due to the material their neural pathways (or something) are made out of, IIRC, supporting the mechanical aspect again. However, the one disease issue that I remember was when someone sneezed on the probe millenia ago. That was simply due to lack of antibodies, I thought, and not because they are machines.
But that disease was transmissible during reincarnation, which makes no sense for a literal virus. It only makes sense for a metaphorical "computer virus", which would then obviously not be the same thing as a disease that humans can contract.

On the list of their obviously mechanical abilities (superspeed, superstrength, superendurance, superdurability, wire interfaces built in, superlong time without sleep if any's ever even needed at all), we can also add a much lower or zero oxygen requirement. When Boomer sabotaged the Galactica's cavernous water tank from the inside, her face was as wet as the rest of her and the stuff she found nearby that she had been using did not include any kind of underwater breathing gear.

And yet, despite that and despite claims to the contrary, there are multiple demonstrations of the fact that they clearly can reproduce and have before without any big deal being made of it...

Bottom line: nothing about them makes any sense because the people making the show don't bother to keep track of it themselves.
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And yet, despite that and despite claims to the contrary, there are multiple demonstrations of the fact that they clearly can reproduce and have before without any big deal being made of it...
But they can't reproduce with each other. The only offspring that's been produced have been the product of a human-cylon breeding pair.

When you consider that it makes a lot of sense why they've reversed themselves on the whole "kill every single human in the Galaxy" bent. If they destroy all of us, they have no way of reproducing themselves and are essentially an evolutionary dead-end.
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On the list of their obviously mechanical abilities (superspeed, superstrength, superendurance, superdurability... we can also add a much lower or zero oxygen requirement.
So, why don't the humans use a dunking stool to detect Cylons?

Simply dunk the suspect individual for a while. If he dies, he was a human.

Oh wait, I see a minor flaw with that plan. Maybe we should just check if he weighs the same as a duck.
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Old 22-May-2008, 02:11 PM
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So, why don't the humans use a dunking stool to detect Cylons?

Simply dunk the suspect individual for a while. If he dies, he was a human.

Oh wait, I see a minor flaw with that plan. Maybe we should just check if he weighs the same as a duck.
An interesting variation on the "Ordeal by Water", which was a water test used to test whether the accused was a witch or not in the middle ages. The test involved tying the accused's hands and feet and then throwing them in deep water. If the accused floated, the water rejected them and they were deemed quilty. If the accused sank, the water accepted them, and they were prononced innocent.
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Old 22-May-2008, 03:36 PM
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But that disease was transmissible during reincarnation, which makes no sense for a literal virus. It only makes sense for a metaphorical "computer virus", which would then obviously not be the same thing as a disease that humans can contract.
Correction - the Cylons thought it might be transmissible during a download. No actual cases of transmission through a download occurred, so they might very well have been wrong.
According to the Battlestar Wiki, they believed that the virus caused a fatal system error in the infected Cylons, and it was the system error that might be translated over and infect a resurrection ship and presumably eventually the entire resurrection network of the Cylons (since we now know that there is a central hub that manages all resurrections), not a physical virus.

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And yet, despite that and despite claims to the contrary, there are multiple demonstrations of the fact that they clearly can reproduce and have before without any big deal being made of it...
As was pointed out - only with humans, not with other Cylons, and only once that we know of has one of the Seven models been able to reproduce - the five might be different in that respect.
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Still not on Hulu yet. Frustrating as heck, considering I came into this show in the proverbial 8th inning.
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I have seen it two times on this : http://www.surfthechannel.com/show/t...Galactica.html
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Old 23-May-2008, 07:01 PM
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I have seen it two times on this : http://www.surfthechannel.com/show/t...Galactica.html
Major thank you, Galacsi.
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Wow! You are right! That is definately Orion:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/...c90b486b_o.jpg

Later, when Cally goes to the airlock she looks out the window and see this:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2116/...bba0cc53_o.jpg

Does anybody recognize that as a constellation (as seen from Earth)?
It's amazing what people catch in the details.
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Old 24-May-2008, 11:50 PM
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Sci-Fi isn't putting the latest episode on their Rewind webpage. What happened?
They finally put it up there yesterday.
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Old 25-May-2008, 12:28 AM
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Speaking of scheduling, we may have something interesting going on from what I read. Apparently, BSG airs in the UK on the "Sky One" network, and if I understood correctly, they run it on Tuesdays, after the Friday it airs here in the US. I would appreciate if any UK members here reading this could confirm all this.

The reason they skipped this Friday is it's Memorial Day weekend. I don't know if they were going to run something "special" or just figured the rating might be low. But in the UK, there's no such thing, and Sky One may not skip a week.

If so, then "Sine Non Qua" (sp?) will air this Tuesday over there and they'll be ahead of us from now until the midseason break. If so, some of those evil, dastardly people will upload it, of course.

This is what happened with Season 1, actually. It aired in the UK well before it started it over here (I forget why). And so, the diehard fans all downloaded and saw it well before it started it here. That guy I know whom I mentioned above did that. It was about 6 or 7 episodes into it before he learned what was going on, and he downloaded them one weekend and watched 6 or 7 hours straight.

The bad thing is that kills ratings over here, and so Ron D and Sci-fi decided not to ever, ever let that happen again, so I suspect they might force Sky One to hold off, but I'm not sure. Tuesday vs Friday is not the much, and it will take a day or so for it to get out there, so they might figure it's not that big a threat.

Again, if UK members are reading, I'd like to know what Sky One's current schedule says.

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Old 25-May-2008, 12:43 AM
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I guess what he's saying is... if it does run early and you post in this thread, we will find you and slit your throat in your sleep.
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Old 25-May-2008, 01:03 AM
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Well, I found Sky's website and found a schedule and apparently "Sine Qua Non" is going to air at 4pm Tuesday, May 27th on Sky One. It will also on a Sky Two channel at 7PM Wednesday. It will probably be posted that night.

That guy I know will probably download and watch it if so. And if he does post here before Friday, you do have my permission to slit his throat.

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Old 25-May-2008, 05:27 AM
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It's amazing what people catch in the details.
Yeah, I spotted Orion in the last episode. (I didn't see it when Calley got spaced because I was too busy screaming NOOOOOO. ) I also saw it viewed the same way with the colonial and the cylon ships in the shot. I don't know if it's intentional or not but if it is it would appear from that that the two forces are close together (in the context of space). I'm guessing that it is and that it's meant to convey the idea that they are getting close to Earth.

Then again they could have just been using a screenshot from Celestia for a star field.
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