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Old 16-March-2004, 01:14 PM
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sorry if my post sounded sarcastic, it wasn't meant to be. Your answer was the antithesis of a googled answer. It made a plesant change from the norm in the Film Quote board...... (waits for hat flogging)
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Paul,

sorry if my post sounded sarcastic, it wasn't meant to be. Your answer was the antithesis of a googled answer. It made a plesant change from the norm in the Film Quote board...... (waits for hat flogging)
I for one found your response entertaining because I was thinking the same thing.
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Old 16-March-2004, 02:40 PM
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sorry if my post sounded sarcastic, it wasn't meant to be. Your answer was the antithesis of a googled answer. It made a plesant change from the norm in the Film Quote board...... (waits for hat flogging)
No worries, Mellow, I wasn't offended. With the BABB, I tend to assume that if something can be taken two ways, the good-natured meaning was probably the one intended. (If only this were true with some of the other BBs I frequent.)

However...

...What on earth is a hat flogging? And how naive do I look asking?
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Old 16-March-2004, 02:51 PM
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A hat flogging is what you get from your friends when you've said something daft or un-funny (old english).
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Old 17-March-2004, 11:39 AM
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A hat flogging is what you get from your friends when you've said something daft or un-funny (old english).
Aha! A bit like what Hardy used to do to Laurel.

I'm old (41 next month) and English but I didn't know it...

Anyway, nobody else has guessed at the quote so here's another passage. This will probably give it away.

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Guilford went to the globe his father kept on his office desk. The first tentative newspaper drawings had shown a ring or loop scrawled over the old maps. This loop bisected Iceland, enclosed the southern tip of Spain and a half-moon of northern Africa, crossed the Holy Land, spanned in an uncertain arc across the Russian steppes and through the Arctic Circle. Guilford pressed the palm of his hand over Europe, occluding the antiquated markings. Terra incognita, he thought.
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Old 17-March-2004, 07:57 PM
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OLD?

Wash your mouth out.

Perhaps with Guinness.

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You didn't know you were old and English?
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Wash your mouth out.
Perhaps with Guinness.
Well, 'twas the day for it....
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Just while we wait for someone to get the right answer (I have no idea what it is): Given the history of the last millenium or so, why do we have the phrase Luck of the Irish?
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Just while we wait for someone to get the right answer (I have no idea what it is): Given the history of the last millenium or so, why do we have the phrase Luck of the Irish?
Because we're still here, I'd think
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Old 18-March-2004, 07:03 AM
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Much as I'm enjoying the conversation (and I am!) does anyone want more of a clue - e.g. a summary of the plot premise?
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Thinking more of the second quote than the first one...
Foucault's Pendulum?
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Old 18-March-2004, 09:38 AM
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Thinking more of the second quote than the first one...
Foucault's Pendulum?
'Fraid not John.

A bit more of a clue:

In the second quote, Guilford's father has a globe of the Earth. Newspapers are mentioned, which gives us some idea of when the story is set. Obviously Europe is featured on the globe, but Guilford has covered Europe with his hand and declared it terra incognita. Why would he do that?
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Old 19-March-2004, 07:59 AM
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Okay, final clue, and I give the answer in about 24 hours if nobody gets it. Here's the plot premise, as well as I can remember it:

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The year is 1912. Fourteen-year-old Guilford Law is sitting on the porch with his parents somewhere on the east coast of America. They are watching an unusual aurora. SUddenly all contact with Europe is lost. Has something cut the transatlantic cable?

An Atlantic steamer already on its way to Liverpool (England) comes across a line of dead things in the sea. Some are recognisable - fish, dolphins, octopi and so on - but a lot of the dead things are completely unrecognisable. A bit further on, they discover they cannot get to Liverpool for one very good reason.

Europe is gone.

Replaced by... what?
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Old 19-March-2004, 08:26 AM
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I once read a story called Sidewise in Time, where small sections of land flip back and forth between parallel universes. This sounds like Europe has flipped in this way, and new lands populated by strange people/creatures have replaced it. It also reminds me of Phillip Pullman's His Dark Materials series, where parallel worlds are mixed by activities in the Arctic.

I still have no idea what your story is, but it does sound good.
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Old 19-March-2004, 08:39 AM
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It looks like it could be a good read, so I looked it up. Since I found it by cheating, I will not post the answer, but the premise appears interesting.
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Old 19-March-2004, 07:35 PM
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Here's a long shot. Darwinia?
The problem is, I bought and own the book but haven't got around to reading it yet.
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Old 20-March-2004, 11:29 AM
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I think you got it. =D>
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Old 21-March-2004, 09:02 AM
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Well done Mike, Darwinia is correct. Sorry for the delay - I couldn't get on the net yesterday. (Lousy Tesco account...)

For those intrigued by the hints, Darwinia is a good book - but, as lots of people have said, it's not the book you think it's going to be.

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Old 22-March-2004, 12:05 AM
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Thank you, Paul.

Here's my quote:

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Old 22-March-2004, 12:36 AM
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Four Brands of Impossible by Norman Kagen.

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Old 22-March-2004, 02:43 AM
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Novelization (sp) of Star Trek: Generations
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