Well, the nose may be needle shaped, but the aft end is quite wide:

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Besides, it's not like they said how much they needed to slow down.

I agree with the theory that the trip towards the star is for some sort of refueling.

I enjoyed the ride through the gas giant's atmosphere.

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wow.. you people are smart..
it turns out that Destiny is the ultimate solar powered vehicle..

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That was the problem with the whole premise of the episode: you know they're going to hit the reset button at the end. I suppose the point was to run the characters through the wringer, but it just ended up being pretty silly, particularly the final bit where the shuttle comes screaming in and then gently (well, fairly gently) lands on top of the ship.

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then they threw in the drama about the doctor possibly knowing what was actually going to happen.
between that and the computer geek/cute girl/soldier boy love triangle, there is some serious drama in the making..

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Yep, I can see it now...

Computer Geek and Cute girl wind up in each others arms,
the room door opens suddenly,
as we see a close up of Soldier Boy's shocked face...

End of episode.

I liked the speech by the young scientist describing how improbable it was for the ship to come out of hyperdrive right next to a system with possibly habitable planets. The science was pretty solid, she explained how since it was a red dwarf the nearest planets would probably be tidal locked, how they were shielded by a gas giant in the right orbit etc. My BS meter didn't ping once for the whole speech.

It's quickly becoming one of my favorites series. I like how the Destiny can restore its power by going into a star. I think Dr. Rush is an interesting character. I can't wait until the next episode.

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That was one of the good bits - more science than you get in entire seasons of some other series.

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I agree, ToSeek. I also liked it when they were entering the star and Dr. Rush pointed out to the others that the corona, which they had already passed through, was much hotter than the surface of the star.

One thing that ruins SciFi for me is when they don't get the science right. That scene very much impressed me.

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I also liked the part about the delayed reaction. Instead of the trope about the countdown and the cringing fear right before the final second, only to keep surviving or avert the catastrope at the last second, they simply passed it by hours before realizing it.

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they had some "Quantam Leap" moments in the show tonight due to the communication stone device thingies malfunctioning. i was wondering when they were going to get around to having fun and creating some drama with those things..

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Well, I think there's gonna be some drama going on based on the last shot of the episode.

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Forgive me but is the guy so desperate that he's willing to start up a relationship based on two seconds of sex?

Or did something we're not aware of happen between them at dinner?

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I did think that the switch during the sex scene was funny. Yep. we are going to see some drama now.

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after he switched back to the other guy's body on the ship, he stood there looking confused and started playing with his wedding ring (or at least where it would be if he was in his own body)..
i'm sure the "drama" will have something to do with the other guy not using his body as a sex toy. also, if the woman did get pregnant, it would make for a very entertaining day in court as he tries to explain to the judge why he shouldn't be forced to pay child support, and also a few very entertaining conversations with his wife about the kid and why it isn't really his..

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Seems the stargate on board was able to dial Melrose Place...

Can we PLEASE keep the soap opera drama in the pointless fluff department, pretty frakking please?

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We certainly didn't need Telford and Young's wife to be having an affair. It also undercuts their dislike for each other. (Chest-thumping would be a better reason, IMO.)

However, it was kind of nice to have the TJ-Young thing confirmed. It's definitely been there since the pilot.

'Time' was definitely a good episode, and the beginning was great. When they go from the recording to them watching the recording, Eli's reaction was classic.

They had to make it a cliffhanger...ack.

It's a nice twist on the temporal loop that's been used before in other scifi.

Was it a cliffhanger, or just an unshown ending? He put all the info they needed into that video...

i'm sure it was just an unshown ending, and the events that happened in the episode will never again be talked about, because it never really happened after all.. this was their first use of the Star Trek:Voyager temporal reset button.

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Yeah. That does NOT bode well for the future. Or the past, should it be rewritten.

On the whole, a decent episode, though it's a bit wearying to see scifi shows ape movies to the point of parody (Stargate does this all the time, but Smallville and Sliders were also very guilty), in this case, Cloverfield.

Here's what I don't get. We know that Destiny has some form of AI; that it is able to anticipate certain problems and gate to places where they might be solved. But are we to assume that Destiny anticipated an illness the crew never even knew it had, then gated to a world which not only happened to possess a naturally occurring antidote, but also was around a star about to experience a solar flare, which would give the crew enough time to identify the problem and deal with it? That strains credibility.

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that ship seems just so much more advanced than anything else that they have shown of the Ancients- or any other race, for that matter- that i'm starting to think that the ship is actually from far in the future and wound up on earth in the past somehow. perhaps maybe the "Ancients" are actually descendants of current humans that went back in time or something..
if i'm wrong, then i hope the writers of the show don't see this post and get any ideas..

one thing i want to know is why the humans back on earth don't just tap into the Asgard database they were given- you know, all the knowledge that the Asgard had accumulated over the millenia- and figure out how to get the people home?

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Bit slow taking off if you ask me, when are some Aliens going to start attacking them?

well, they had those "lightning bug" things, then the poison water, and now the killer slug things.
i think the ship is trying to kill them..

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That's an unfair accusation considering that precedent was set by SG-1 in "2010."

I was pretty amused when Eli mention Alien, and then it looked like the thing burst through Chloe's chest.

I liked this episode. It was more like the good SG-1 eps than anything else we've seen in this new series.

yeah, but it took SG-1 something like 7 seasons before they pushed the button- this series only made it 4 episodes. and they just had to use the solar flare technobabble from one of the more fun and pointless eps of SG1 (1969, i think it was called) to explain how it all worked.

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You can't blame SG Universe for that second sentence. The solar flare thing has been done a number of times since "1969" in both SG-1 and Atlantis. It's way too early to say this series is as bad as Voyager.

I do understand what you're saying, but I'm one of the minority that like this kind of story.

The time loop thing didn't bother me since the ability has been established in the franchise. I didn't consider the possibility that it was the ship which positioned itself so that a wormhole between it and the planet would pass through a star. The old gate network in the Milky Way was designed to avoid that all together.

What bugged me was the greased lightening alien slugs. Besides seeming unrealistic from a physiological standpoint, they seem to be out of place from an environmental standpoint. There was nothing to indicate that there was enough prey in the vicinity to support such a life-cycle absent human bodies. It also makes little sense for the slugs to: 1, attack a newly encountered animal (humans); 2, all attack individual animals instead of the same animal; 3, move in a manner unrealistic to their anatomy; 4, kill in a manner inrealistic to both their and human anatomy.

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You've got to remember that the Destiny is older Ancient technology, including the Stargates. So the safeguards we've seen in the past may not be built into them.