I agree. Indeed, let's face it, any such "mechanism" would need to be so far outside anything science has encountered that I'd say all bets would be off anyway, no matter what the argument.

"Even a stopped clock tells the right time, twice a day".

(A sample in a track by the British band "Orbital", taken from some documentary).

This kind of study of numbers, and the mind is called "Numerology". And, no, there's probably absolutely no scientific evidence for it, but it is used by some people as a guide to their mind/emotions.

I wonder how much of this 2012 area has a lot to do with people's own personal journey of self discovery. It was through a "new age" book about the Mayans ("The Mayan Factor"), that I discovered the extraordinary, well known, nature of planetary orbits and all sorts of things.

The misinformation and the willingness of Coast to Coast / Art Bell (for example) to take advantage of the unwary worries me as well, but I sometimes think that some people forget that they are criticising what are often artistic endeavours, in fact bordering on religion.

I once looked for Planet X, and thought something would happen on the Millennium...but now I see the misguided nature of that....but look at Jungian psychology. Jung described UFO's as "The Shadow Archetype" manifesting in society as an unease when new ways of thinking were about to arise.

Could 2012 symbolise fears of the future ? Or even desire for transformation in society ?

Does everything have to be looked at in totally Scientific terms or can we have a cross disciplinary approach that respects all beliefs ?

Yes....it would nice if the physics/astronomy was right as well!

DJBarney

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Dark Comedy Theory. Where c is coffee, s is spew, v is velocity, and w is how much windex used to clean LCD monitor. When I put the sentence through the equation, it unified all 4 forces above. I'm hoping someone here can help me express the precise mathematics into an elegant, simple equation. My next step is to post it in ATM, and then hopefully submit if for refereeing.
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Hello people first I am brand new here and I will go to the introduction page and say hello in a moment.But I just had to say something here regarding the Mayan calendar and the ever famous 2012.First I will say that I am Native American.Second I have to say...According to the Mayan Elders 2012 is NOT I repeat NOT about the end of the world!!!!!!!! It is about the worlds transformation. For further reading on this go here. This Fearmongering that is going on all over the place right now regarding 2012 is plucking my last nerves.Yes it is an alignment.. is it possible for this alignment to bring solar system and earth changes yes it is go here
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It is about an awakening and choosing new ways.
So I want to thank U all for bring a dose of sanity into the 2012 panic and for being here so that I can say this to someone who will understand..life on earth will be here after 2012 I promise.

Necromancy alert! You are responding to a thread that has been inactive since 2007. And welcome to BAUT.

There are tons of threads on 2012. Most here do not agree that there will be any change on that date. We will wake up the next morning feeling pretty much the same.

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