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Old 14-March-2007, 02:13 AM
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From NASA/Marshall Space Flight Center. linky link ww.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/03/040302074814.htm

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The enigmatic objects found by the Chandra team are called "quasisoft" sources, because they have a temperature in the range of 1 million to 4 million degrees Celsius. On the one hand this temperature range is below the 10 million to 100 million-degree gas associated with "hard" X-ray sources, such as neutron stars or stellar-mass black holes. On the other hand the quasisoft-source temperatures are hotter than the several hundred-thousand-degree gas associated with "supersoft" X-ray sources due to white dwarfs.
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One possibility is the quasisoft sources represent standard neutron stars or stellar black holes where the associated hot gas cloud is, for some as yet unknown reason, much larger than usual
So do they mean matter in the 3rd or 4th state?
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From NASA/Marshall Space Flight Center. linky link ww.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/03/040302074814.htm
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At these kind of temperatures and near these kind of objects they mean that the gas is a plasma.

A plasma is a gas in which a significant amount of the constituents is ionized, i.e. the atoms have lost one or more electrons. The ionization degree must be high enough to make collective processes possible (usually the number of electrons in the deBye sphere must be much larger than 1). Then we talk about a plasma, also called "the 4th state of matter", however, it still remains a gas. A bit confusing maybe, but if you follow this reasoning, you might understand.
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The reason it didn't come out as a proper link is that he mis-typed
or mis-copied or accidentally deleted the beginning of the URL, so
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