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About 40 years ago, back when I was in 6th grade, my friend and I went off to summer camp at Camp Arcade in California's Sierra Nevada mountain range. At one point, the camp was divided into two groups for an overnight hike. My group went to a lake, and the other went to a nearby hill or rock formation that I think was called Devil's Head or something like that because it sort of resembled a demonic face. Anyway, in late afternoon, we spotted a white streak moving across the sky in our general direction. To our surprise, it seemed to explode over Devil's Head with a loud boom and formed a huge "halo" of smoke that lasted for quite some time. Needless to say, it was a pretty strange experience. I remember someone suggesting that it was a rocket test, but it seems odd that would happen as far inland as we were. I thought it was some giant firework set off by the other group, but my friend assured me that they didn't know anything about that.
I was reminded of this recently, and it got me to wondering what exactly I saw that day. Are meteors or comets known to create that kind of large ring? |
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What the OP describes sounds like a large, stationary affair. Grant Hutchison |
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Do you have any links to pictures of these formations? |
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It was a long time ago, so I'm not sure, but as I recall, the ring got extremely large and dissipated over a fairly long period of time (maybe 10-20 minutes?)
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If you can remember enough details, we could have a fairly good
chance of identifying what kind of thing you saw. But it sounds to me like it would require a lot of questions and answers to rule out a large number of possibilities. The brightness of the sky, brightness of the streak and of the halo, length and width of the streak, speed of the streak across the sky, size of the halo, and on and on. The fact that you were in an unusual situation (for you) suggests that it was most likely an ordinary phenomenon that you hadn't seen before because you were new to the place. -- Jeff, in Richfield, MN
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The closest one to what I saw is the Mt. Ranier one by Ed Book (the sixth image from the top). However, what I saw was: -not nearly as large (it only took up about 20% of my field of view) -much better defined -appeared in an otherwise cloudless part of the sky -appeared well above the rock formation, rather than around it -was proportioned more like a bicycle tire than a doughnut |
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-I believe the sky was fairly clear -It was late afternoon -The halo brightness was about what I would have expected from a cloud or white smoke -I don't recall the streak brightness so much as the fact that it didn't look like an everyday thing (such as a jet contrail). My impression at the time was that it was a rocket plume or the trail of something entering the atmosphere. -The streak moved quite a bit faster than a commercial jet at cruising altitude. The elevation there was about 7000 feet, though, so that might affect things. If it was a jet, it would have to have been a military one, and perhaps it could have been flying much lower than a regular jet. -The halo size is very difficult to estimate since I don't know how far away it was. I was standing near a lake, and the rock formation was on the opposite side. I would say that I was looking up at it at about a 30-45 degree angle. The halo began very small, and spread out over the course of a couple minutes. Before it started to dissipate, it looked a bit like a bicycle tire in terms of proportions. The only other thing I recall about the incident is that one of the camp counselors said something like "Tell Vandenberg they were right on target" which made me think it was a rocket. However, what I didn't know at the time was that Vandenberg AFB is located on the coast about 300 miles south of where we were (Lake Tahoe), so it's not like we were in the neighborhood. |
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I wonder if the Sun might have been hidden behind Devil's Head, and
what you saw was a circle of light reflected from aligned ice crystals above the mountain. The ice might have condensed from water vapor in the air because of the passage of whatever made the streak, or it might have been there by coincidence. Here's a simple diagram of a fairly common type of halo made by the Moon or the Sun, showing the relative size of the ring in comparison to the size of the Moon or Sun, which I made for a similar question in 2005: http://www.freemars.org/jeff2/halo1.png -- Jeff, in Richfield, MN
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Sounds like you're describing a sun dog? http://www.und.edu/admin/
If so, the thing I saw wasn't anything like that. It was like a giant smoke ring, and it was at a flatter angle. I went ahead and did a rough sketch of what I recall. It really was an odd scene. ![]() |
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