Nah, had Pluto retained his status, he was still only number 9...
as well as known.

"X" at the time meaning "10th" or "unknown" planet.

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"Where the telescope ends, the microscope begins. Which of the two has the greater view?" - Hugo

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

"Planet X," the hypothetical tenth planet, has little or nothing to do with "Planet X," the doomsday planet that's going to kill us all in 2003, as you well know. You're just bored since R.A.F. got banned and have decided, apparently, to pick on me instead. I warn you that it's harder to rile me.

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Gillian

"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Gillianren, I'm not picking on or trying to rile you.

I found your statement misleading, that is all.

I saw no clarification with mainstream answers to the planet x question.
Additionally, if someone were familiar with the original claims for Nibiru they'd be able to say Leider's nonsense was off base to begin with.

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"Where the telescope ends, the microscope begins. Which of the two has the greater view?" - Hugo

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

You know.....I have personally seen wide paths of exhaust or whatever from jets.... that do not look normal..(for what I have always seen in the sky)...and there are a lot of people that now believe all the "ruler's" of our world to be of "high breed" origin........I.E. the Annukai or Pleidean......(extraterestrials in any event)........I have discussed and researched this matter and have found the evidence very convincing that we are all of some form (genetically) high bread beings........some say that the chemtrails are real.......that they are dispersing things into the atmosphere. Some say that these "rulers" are at war with eachother, some are good, some are not in our best interests.

I have come here for serious discussion....the latter of what I just mentioned somehow I have always known to be true (origin of man)............true........in my heart........ If you want to learn....(I believe)...you should follow your heart.........only Love will prevail at the end................and at the end some of us will find that we are part or parcell of GOD....able to teach the finite it's ultimate master. (I stole that quote, but believe it to be true)....so my question is simple........what does the most intelligent of you all believe? Gillianren and Neverfly.......I would respect your opinions....as what I have read of you so far you seem sincere...(no offense please to anyone else remeber I'm a "newbie")

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RuinHayes

<grunt>



<Picks up an old thigh bone lying on the ground. Experimentally thumps the ground with it.>




<Thumps the ground with the bone...>



<Pounces Ruinhayes bashing on his head with the thigh bone>

<Stands victorious thumping his chest>

ARGHHHHHH <THUMP THUMP THUMP>


Believing in what you find desirable or inspirational is all fine and good... But always remember that reality lurks in every corner. And it doesn't much care what you believe.

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill


I will certainly attempt to avoid the truth, as has been said 'no good can come of it'

Hmmm... sounds like someone has discovered a mantra.

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"Where the telescope ends, the microscope begins. Which of the two has the greater view?" - Hugo

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

Details can be found in the 62 threads 01101001 linked to earlier. It's been covered many times. But, if you want to detail the point that there is no evidence for a giant "Planet X" coming our way to "shift the poles," you're quite welcome to do so.

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I say there is an invisible elf in my backyard. How do you prove that I am wrong?

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The Leif Ericson Cruiser

This is a science discussion board. If you think you have evidence, and you want to promote an idea about extraterrestrials supposedly on Earth, that would be more appropriate for the ATM section.

But, be sure to read the board rules. This board is not for discussion of religious beliefs, primarily because those tend to lead to heated arguments that never go anywhere.

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I say there is an invisible elf in my backyard. How do you prove that I am wrong?

Disclaimer: Avatar is not an official NASA image and does not imply any specific interplanetary or interstellar capability.

The Leif Ericson Cruiser

X at the time meant only unknown - there were, after all, only 8 known planets. The search for planet X - based on perceived perturbations in Neptune's orbit (calculations subsequently shown to be erroneous) resulted in the discovery of Pluto. At which point, it was believed planet X had been found. Therefore, the original Planet X is Pluto.

Since Pluto, Eris and all the other larger TNOs are now considered dwarf planets, if any larger body were to be found beyond Pluto it would be Planet IX in Roman numerology. If you count Pluto, Eris and the other larger TNOs as actual planets then any larger body would be Planet XXVII or something

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Andy

Manager Ukweatherworld

Well why not suggest something simple then. All a micro black hole has to be able to do is absorb heat. We will be producing thousands of them in a few months time all in the northern hemisphere. The cold side of the core rotates slower because like treacle the cooler it is the slower it flows.

So when all the disaster movies start coming out a sci-fi based one that slows the rotation of the earth's core in the northern hemisphere only causes the earth to tilt.

That shuts down the ocean currents as the heat from the sun arrives at the wrong spots and leads to a global ice age. The electrical storm is so fierce it combines the carbon and nitrogen in the air to form cyanide. The only safe drinking water is from underground where bacteria have had time to process the cyanide back into safe carbon and nitrogen compounds.

Incidentally cyanide is bitter so a wormwood and apocalypse reference may help. If only Charlton Heston was still around. It could be an epic if done right but the movie industry lost a great actor just recently. So who would be your preferred lead partner then?

The smilie suggests this is meant in jest, but since this is the Q&A section, I want to point out that this would be a very bad sci-fi film. In short, it would be nonsensical.

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I say there is an invisible elf in my backyard. How do you prove that I am wrong?

Disclaimer: Avatar is not an official NASA image and does not imply any specific interplanetary or interstellar capability.

The Leif Ericson Cruiser

How do you get something to only orbit one hemisphere? Oh wait, this is hollywood you're talking about, little details like that don't matter.

I think you are on to something here. The NASA mission to save Earth will be manned by a rag-tag band of Conspiracy Theorists, trained after an intensive 2 week period by NASA to fly a specially designed shuttle to Zeta Reticuli to pick up some copper bracelets, which will deflect Nibiru into a more harmonious orbit.

In a moving shot, you will see the crew striding across the gangway toward the shuttle - grim faced, tin foil helmets glinting in the bright morning sunlight. The crew's mascot, a mongoose called Icky, peers inquisitively from his lead lined basket as he protects the crew from any interfering reptiles.

After many adventures, the crew's leader sacrifices his own life to save the Earth by sliding down a contrail at a precise angle and, by virtue of his reinforced tin foil hat, penetrating the surface and delivering his cargo of copper bracelets to Nibiru's core. The resultant pole shift moves Nibiru into a resonant orbit to the Earth, resulting in a change in the weather which makes the Earth a paradise. The movie ends with a whole bunch of people in togas walking around some potted plants and an indoor fountain, celebrating the annual CT Day holiday.

May be more of a direct to DVD sort of thing though....

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"I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." - Douglas Adams

"Certainly, in the topsy-turvy world of heavy rock, having a good solid piece of wood in your hand is often useful." - Ian Faith

1993- Kai is born.
2000- Y2K.
2003- Planet X.
2006- 6/6/06

I'm stil a kid and I've already survived three predicted dooms. Don't sweat it.

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I want to go back to the moon.
I don't care which rocket you use, whichever one you pick, I'll like it, I swear.
"If you think the LHC will create black holes, you might as well believe Hobbits are at the bottom of your garden."- Dr. Mike Inglis
Rovers forever! - ToSeek

Absolutely, I know better than to answer a scientific question in a serious Q/A thread.

[put on high thesbificated voice]That was my theatrical approach.[/put on high thesbificated voice]

Spell check says the word is non existent which is a shame because it should be

Ah yes, but the force is strong with you Kai.

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If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it... of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which are only accessible to our reason in their most elementary forms...
Albert Einstein

Four if you count the panic with Hale-Bopp.

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I want to go back to the moon.
I don't care which rocket you use, whichever one you pick, I'll like it, I swear.
"If you think the LHC will create black holes, you might as well believe Hobbits are at the bottom of your garden."- Dr. Mike Inglis
Rovers forever! - ToSeek

Sorry Mr. Q. The shuttle is due for retirement in 2010. I beleive this is part of the conspiracy to cover up Nibaru's existence.

Hi r0cknu, welcome to BAUT.

Uh... are you making a joke, or are you serious? Do you really think Nibaru exists? And how does retiring the shuttle have anything to do with this?

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One Earth, One Sky - IYA 2009
All moderation in purple

Maybe the article today on msnbc is right.
Are they out to get you? Paranoia on the rise

ROcknu didn't say where he/she is from...

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Numbers are not case sensitive. (me)

And now, five with the LHC.
"I'm a surviver, 'cause I don't give up, I'm a surviver..."

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I want to go back to the moon.
I don't care which rocket you use, whichever one you pick, I'll like it, I swear.
"If you think the LHC will create black holes, you might as well believe Hobbits are at the bottom of your garden."- Dr. Mike Inglis
Rovers forever! - ToSeek

From Jim: 2003 no 2012: A picture is available from this post by Grant Hutchison

G'day r0cknu, and welcome to the BAUT forum.

How exactly does retiring the Shuttles help cover up Nibiru's (note spelling) existence? If Nibiru exists, it'll be quite easily detectable from the Earth's surface, and by amateur astronomers, too.