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Old 12-May-2004, 12:43 PM
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Apparent first picture of extra-solar planet taken bt Hubble.

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Old 12-May-2004, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: Hubble sees extra-solar Planet

One should be cautious in interpreting this image. In 1998, others using the Hubble Space Telescope claimed to have imaged an extrasolar planet. When its spectrum was obtained, however, it turned out to be a mere background star.
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Still, it gives us all something to chew over.
Does anyone know how long the follow up observations will take to see if it's really a planet or just a background star?
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I have a question... suppose it is an extrasolar planet...

whats the pattern for nomenclature? say we find planets around Vega (i know.. we can't, that's why i'm supposeing). say we finf 1 planet and call it Vega a, and then a second planet, farther out and call that vega b. now suppose we find a third planet inside the orbits of the first two and call it 'c'. this means that from in to out (the way we think about orbitals) it comes out as vega c, a, b.

that can get really annoying when you are trying to keep planets straight.
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I have a question... suppose it is an extrasolar planet...

whats the pattern for nomenclature? say we find planets around Vega (i know.. we can't, that's why i'm supposeing). say we finf 1 planet and call it Vega a, and then a second planet, farther out and call that vega b. now suppose we find a third planet inside the orbits of the first two and call it 'c'. this means that from in to out (the way we think about orbitals) it comes out as vega c, a, b.

that can get really annoying when you are trying to keep planets straight.
An astute observation. This is exactly the situation with the rings of Saturn. I think the excuse is "it's the oder in which they were discovered." :roll: I got 5 bucks sez the situation will be agravated once Cassini gets there. :-?
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thinking back on it a little more, i think that the best way might be by albedio. Do it like you would stars - odds are that's the order you are going to find them in anyway.
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Looking at the picture the most amazing thing is that the planet appears to be square. Has Hubble found the Bizzaro World?
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Looking at the picture the most amazing thing is that the planet appears to be square. Has Hubble found the Bizzaro World?
Aaaaigh! Borg Cube!!!
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If it's a planet, it's a dead, sterilized planet.

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The planet would have begun its life several billion years ago much closer to its parent star.

This star would have been more massive and brighter than our Sun. At the end of its life, it would have expanded and destroyed any nearby planets.

Only the more distant planets would have survived and, as the star lost mass, their orbits would have expanded due to the star's reduced gravity.

Debes remains cautious about the object until it has been shown to be definitely associated with the white dwarf.
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Looking at the picture the most amazing thing is that the planet appears to be square. Has Hubble found the Bizzaro World?
Maybe it's Gort's 'Thargoydia'! The only square planet in the universe... Where's Captain Kremmin when you need him?

"Look Carla! There on the scanner! It's Uranus!'

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any more information about this one?
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If it's really 5-10 Jupiter masses as the article suggests, and is glowing brightly enough in the infrared to show up on Hubble's infrared imaging system, then wouldn't it be a brown dwarf instead of a planet?
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Now wait just a cotton-pickin' minute here.

According to the first paragraph in the above link:
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The "planet", 5-10 times the mass of Jupiter, is orbiting a small white dwarf star about 100 light-years away.
Yet, according to the space.com article on this subject at http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ay_040510.html:
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The object is one of three planet candidates found in the new study around white dwarf stars between 30 and 55 light-years away.
So which is it? 30-55 ly, or 100 ly?
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If it's really 5-10 Jupiter masses as the article suggests, and is glowing brightly enough in the infrared to show up on Hubble's infrared imaging system, then wouldn't it be a brown dwarf instead of a planet?
Boundary between "giant planet" and "brown dwarf" is pretty arbitrary. Most common definition is 13 Jupiter masses - where deuterium fusion begins.
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If it's really 5-10 Jupiter masses as the article suggests, and is glowing brightly enough in the infrared to show up on Hubble's infrared imaging system, then wouldn't it be a brown dwarf instead of a planet?
There are two variables in the temperature/luminosity of one of these objects (Jovians or brown dwarfs) - not only mass, but age, matters. Both are expected to be quite hot (and bright) while still young, but cool dramatically as much of their initial heat is radiated. This entered into the reports of brown dwarfs in the Orion Nebula cluster, for example. Some white dwarfs can give a clue to their ages, from mass plus how far down the cooling path they've gotten since being produced from a former stellar core. And yes indeed, this does all depend on models of how the structure of these things works...
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