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I received this email from Rick Tumlinson, co-founder of the Space Frontier Foundation. He is very pro-space, in the sense of getting private companies to finance it. He thinks NASA has its place, but has lost its way, and needs outside thinkers to steer America back on course.
I post this article in its entirety (with permission) with no implied endorsement or criticism. I'm just curious what people here think. I have my own opinions, but I'll wait a while before posting them, so as not to bias the conversation. Quote:
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I'd go along with it generally. We have a NASA-industry space complex with no great motivation to make access to space cheaper, since most of the money going to space goes to NASA and the associated industries. NASA should focus more on ends - sending a probe to Mars or into orbit - and let private industry figure out how best to do it.
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The only thing that bothers me with privatization of space is the ability to impose some level of regulation upon them. Once the genie is out of the bottle, its loose, and not much can stop it. Once private companies have unrestrictable access to space, there's not much a government can do to impose regulations upon them. By this I mean, environmental (space junk), occupational hazard (how many safety regs would corporations follow if there was no OSHA or local equivalent breathing down their neck?), and operational safety (why bother with upkeep if cheap access makes lofting a new whatever less expensive?).
Not casting stones at any of the current players in the field, but think a generation or two down the line. Major corporations aren't known for caring for much beyond the bottom line once something is considered a commodity. That is the risk we face if space access becomes a commodity, not a luxery or experimental pursuit.
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First impressions: Rick seems a "tad" upset with NASA, and aerospace contractors. When you need support from a group, it's probably not a good idea to characterize them as dinosaurs.
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of money to make this "work", and that's why I can't get too excited about it. I just don't see this in the near (or even far) future as being anything other than a "rich man's" game. ...and that's my opinion...I hope I'm wrong... |
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It would be nice if he would be right, but I just don't see it. SSO was a nice thing, but by being designed just to reach the goal of the X-Prize, it could avoid nerly everything that makes real spaceflight difficult and expensive. I see one advantage a private space transportation sector would have: Accidents wouldn't lead to such outcries as they happen when the system is operated by a governmental body. Harald
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Governments might flinch at strapping a crewed capsule onto one of these things without a bible-thick book of safety certifications, but once a booster is certified as operational, there's nothing saying a private company has to do more than ensure the capsule they strap to the nose is under the mass limit. The infastructure is in place, you just have to conform your launch package to the limits of the booster it uses.
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You're talking about "cutting corners", and that leads to accidents. Now I'm not saying that a "loss of vehicle" would lead to discontinuence of private space ventures. But lose enough people and we might start to see a lack of confidence by the "investors". Spaceflight is inherently a "risky business", and it's going to be a LONG time before it is not. |
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Also, losing people is bad, BUT as long as the profit margin is there, what's to keep investors out? It doesn't necessarily need to get to the point where people die from immediately apparent causes either. The cost of lofting manned vehicles into space is likely going to be far more expensive a proposition than unmanned, so whats to prevent a company from extending manned missions to durations that aren't very good for the long term health of the crews? Its space, its an adventure, think they'll be short on volunteers? The damage done by corners cut doesn't have to be so dramatic as a violent death in a launch accident, those are bad PR, those are to be avoided. But other more subtle corners, what's to stop them from cutting those and hiding behind an army of lawyers? Cost/benefit is the core. If they can accept the risk for the sake of increased profit, don't believe there aren't companies that won't walk across that line.
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Poor safety by itself doesn't necessarily condemn a new industry; daily train wrecks in the 1800s didn't ruin the Railroad industry, and the early airline industry had more than a few planes go down (the Comet comes to mind) before they got it right.
The difference with space, however, is that for the foreseeable future it is merely entertainment, and will thus be held to safety standards more akin to amusement parks than transportation systems.
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Government and NASA are limited by taxes and budgeting constraints, private organizations are limited in their ingenuity of creating a profit from the space industry. I would have to agree with the view that privatization of space as necessary to providing humanity with a firmer, surer stepping stone in preparation for our jump into a truly space faring culture. *** Edit to say, I believe I'd like to see this thread as a Sticky
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I think the privatisation of space is somewhat inevitable but no one has put as much money into space as has gone into NASA. We haven't exactly used space to its full potential with the amount of money that has gone into it, umm i wonder why #-o
Oh yeah, NASA's the one developing all the propulsion technologies. Like the VASIMR system is probably the best hope we have for efficient travel to Mars or other planets and it is also the fastest by far. The deceleration is a bit of a problem as half of the trip has to be deceleration but that could be cut down by sling shoting around the planet and decelerating to get into an orbit. This would make the trip even shorter, or heck strap a chemical rocket on to help slow it down quicker. I don't hold much promise for privatisation of space until companies start putting more long term applications into their plans. Also without a policing in space it could well develop into a privateering situation between rival companies. If a ship conveniently gets damaged and drifts off course no ones likely going to find out if there was foul play involved. |
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I like the gist of the email. What seems to be lacking are the details. But all things in good time I guess.
If Tumlinson would like to get going now, one idea for getting some equipment into orbit which could be used as habitats might be the shuttle external tank, once the STS gets flying again. If I recall correctly the tank only needs a slight delta V increase in order to achieve orbit. There have been studies done about how to make it habitable. These actions might be supportable through non-heavy lift boosters and their attendant spacecraft, and would act as a short cut to getting manned habitats in orbit to serve as the "anchorage and industrial port" Tumlinson talked about. As it is now, NASA throws every ET away. All it accomplished after its fuel is spent is providing the folks in the southern hemisphere with a spectacular entry light show. Re the difference between NASA and private industry, there's the drive to make a profit that's in the latter, but not in the former. As Jay pointed out either here or another BB, compared to its composition in the 1960s, today's NASA has significantly fewer engineers, and many more bureaucrats. The main goal of a bureaucrat is protecting one's territory and self-preservation, of the individuals position, the department, and the organization. This is a problem that NASA will always have. It should be decisive in evolving NASA from a space flight "company" back to its original concept as indicated in its name "National Aeronautics and Space Administration". Its role would be the primary regulator of space travel, much like the FAA, etc., but hopefully without the FAA's charter to promote air travel while attempting to regulate airlines, etc., and ensure safety, which led to conflicts of interest in the past. The principles described by Tumlinson are sound. Now let's get into the details, and start planning/executing. Speaking of executing, a quick aside to Demigrog. About the last person I'd like to see in charge of one of these space companies is Jack Welch. What he did to GE was reprehensible. His misuse of Six Sigma to ensure short term gains was unconscionable. The effect this had on the quality of GE products and the quality of the work environment at GE was nothing but negative. The only positives were for Welch and his inner circle, who departed with the most golden parachutes imaginable. His disregard for safety of GE employees and the safety of persons using GE products was arrogance personified. His books demonstrate that he continues to be proud of how he gutted the company. No Welch, nor Iacocca, Ellison, Lutz, and their ilk. We need company heads who are in favor of innovation, quality, and safety as equal in stature to profits. Companies with these priorities tend to be profitable by nature (as opposed to profitable by brute force), and typically require little if any government agency intervention. Great piece of writing by Mr. Tumlinson. I hope the responses he gets are positive, meaningful, and tangible!
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