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Old 11-January-2007, 08:46 PM
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Sending a rover on Mars is no more money than a hollywood blockbuster.
Estimated record production cost, Superman Returns, $260 million. Mars Pathfinder launch and operation, estimated: $265 million.

Pretty good. Different generations and dollars, but pretty good.

MER missions, 2 rovers, estimated $820 million. Cheaper by the pair. $410 million per. About a movie-and-a-half.
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Estimated record production cost, Superman Returns, $260 million. Mars Pathfinder launch and operation, estimated: $265 million.

Pretty good. Different generations and dollars, but pretty good.

MER missions, 2 rovers, estimated $820 million. Cheaper by the pair. $410 million per. About a movie-and-a-half.
The MERs could effectively be considered separate projects, given that they're not exactly tripping over each other in terms of what they're studying.
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The MERs could effectively be considered separate projects, given that they're not exactly tripping over each other in terms of what they're studying.
Certainly. I still have to think their unit cost is cheaper because we sent two. I think a single MER would have cost more than half the pair -- for purposes of comparing movie production costs and Mars rovers.
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The second rover added about 50% - from about $600m to about $850m - very very roughly.

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Phoenix landing site woes

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Aviation Now and The Rocky Mountain News have reported on two problems facing the Phoenix Mars lander, which is supposed to launch this summer: a $10 to $35 million cost overrun (which, though not at all trivial, does have an easy enough fix, though the future consequences to other Mars missions may be tough to stomach) and a serious hazard within the planned landing region (which is harder to fix).
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Mars mission clears hurdle
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NASA's Colorado-built Phoenix mission to Mars just dodged a lethal bullet.

Mission leaders survived a "termination review" in Washington, D.C., on Friday and gained approval to proceed toward an August launch despite cost overruns, said lead mission scientist Peter Smith of the University of Arizona.
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I hear it will be launched by the Delta II, a number of instruments from the cancelled 'Scout' and 'Surveyor-2001' will be making a comeback
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Something of a mix of missions there. Phoenix is the first of the Mars Scout program missions (every other opportunity - in the $400M ish range)

It takes the 'chassis' of the cancelled 2001 lander - but the instruments are mainly ones designed for the failed 1998 Mars Polar Lander. The instruments for the 2001 Lander ( called APEX.. Athena Precursor Experiment as a Mossbauer, Mini-TES and Pancam ) ended up as MER's Athena Payload .

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Something of a mix of missions there. Phoenix is the first of the Mars Scout program missions (every other opportunity - in the $400M ish range)

It takes the 'chassis' of the cancelled 2001 lander - but the instruments are mainly ones designed for the failed 1998 Mars Polar Lander. The instruments for the 2001 Lander ( called APEX.. Athena Precursor Experiment as a Mossbauer, Mini-TES and Pancam ) ended up as MER's Athena Payload .

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Undergraduate paves way for NASA Mars mission

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A team led by Raymond E. Arvidson, Ph.D., James S. McDonnell Distinguished University Professor in Arts & Sciences, has been analyzing images taken from a NASA instrument to make sure that the Phoenix spacecraft lands in a spot on the Red planet's northern plains that is relatively rock-free.

"The craft has to land in a place unlikely to have slopes more than 16 degrees relative to horizontal, and it shouldn't have very many rocks higher than 30 to 40 centimeters (roughly one foot high)," said Arvidson, who also is chair of the Washington University earth and planetary sciences department. "We've been looking for locations big enough and homogeneous enough for a high probability of a successful landing. The issue isn't slopes. The issue is rocks."
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I am SO excited about this mission. I have just sent my application form for the Student Interns Program. Hopefully, nothing will go wrong, and I will be picked to spend a year and a half on this project. Yeah!!
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Wow , I feel sorry for Venus Lander It would be awful to live like that

On the other hand I cannot wait for those Martian Polar pics , I have waited far too long for them , and I believe it WILL revolutionize our understanding of Mars.

It will NOT fail and is only the first of the scout missions that will lead us to the greatest adventure in space exploration history , Another giant leap and a human on Mars!
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I heard that during the phoenix mission a dvd will be leave on mars, and if it is found to the spacies of mars then it will be more remarkable and amazing one.
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I heard that during the phoenix mission a dvd will be leave on mars, and if it is found to the spacies of mars then it will be more remarkable and amazing one.
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Did you put your name on it ?
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Probably. Not sure any more. I've put my name (and my friends') on lots of these thing.
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Phoenix has arrived at KSC

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NASA's next Mars mission, the Phoenix lander, has winged its way to Florida aboard a C-17 transport plane, according to Leonard David, who apparently got to hitch a ride with the spacecraft yesterday. He says the landing was smooth, so Phoenix should be good to go for its final assembly and testing before its planned August launch. It's going to be an exciting summer, bracketed by the launch of two small but capable missions, Dawn to the asteroid belt and Phoenix to Mars!
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Emily sure is great for keeping up to date with this stuff, are any baut members going to be at Canaveral for the launch ?
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I heard that a "dvd" will be place on mars of "space enthusiasts of the world" by embossing their names on this dvd? during this mission, the phoenix mission is going to leave a special dvd on mars ?
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