http://www.marsdaily.com/2004/040114165625...5.hdc9ehsq.html

how about this?
I think a Russian plan is better

More power to them! I hope they can do it .. not least because if they do the USA will get their asses into gear. But, can the Russians even afford that? That's what happens when you think to take a pencil instead of a million dollar specially designed space pen.

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I would not be surprised if there were concerted efforts afoot from the Chinese, Japanese and Europeans as well.

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I'm sure the ESA would be involved at some point, but not on their own... they'd contribute via the Russians or the US... they don't seem to be interested in manned spaceflight as much as everyone else.

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it looks like most of the big countries already start going to take over the red planet, except the small countries still in progress I guess ^^

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I'd love to see Russia make it there before the US.

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I know what you mean, Kashi; but I'd hate to see any country get anywhere before the USA - because they are the "good" guys, and we are on their side.

They've just overspent, that's all.

Man, I can't figure you out, Chook. Are you taking the ****? Or are you serious?

russia is good, they now suffering with very low budget but they going for it! still launch people to space.they know too that low budget is lower safety too.

what should NASA do if their side? cancels everything!

Russia is playing the bluff card - the Russians have been trying to pretend for years that they are still a superpower. Now all they have is a fading space industry, the same poverty, yet far less political and military influence on the world. It's big talk with no walk.

Unfortunately, for all George W's words, he's not announced real plans for actually acheiving said goals. He's already been criticised for overspending on an economy running further into the red.

The only thing going for his announcement is the fact that there's no way that the USA will let China get too comfy in space. This is basically america waking up, rather than actually doing anything concrete.

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russian keep sending supply and crew to ISS what is too expensive for them, they still do it.

Trying to "keep up" with America led to her demise as a world power before. I totally agree with I,Brian.

Quote tycho 1981:
"russian keep sending supply and crew to ISS what is too expensive for them, they still do it"

... and this is a classical receipe for going broke - for a country, or you and I - spending when you haven't got the money.

Simple - anybody can understand, even FAULKNER.

Har har! For sure!

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If a remeber correctly it's the USA that has a hole the size of Texas in its budget. And as far as i know Russia hasn't got a deficit. And with these high oil prices the future looks bright for Russia's budget.

The crystal ball for space is hard to read. Whodathunkit that 29 years after Apollo-Soyuz linkup that America would depend on a Soyuz spaceship for a ride to the International Space Station? How about Russia and China going to the Moon together?
With the Space Shuttle said to be flown another 7 years (times 4 flights a year equals only 28 flights with six or seven seats each that has NASA astronauts playing musical chairs), America is clearly all dressed up and no place to go.
Until, of course, when this fabulous Crew Exploration Vehicle is cranked into production--the blueprints of which haven't been drawn yet.
I don't know, but it looks like a bunch of smoke and mirrors for what could be a 10 year lull, instead of conquest.

Development on that /|\


When Nasa first started sending up astronauts, they quickly discovered that ball-point pens would not work in zero gravity. To combat the problem, scientists spent a decade and 12 billion dollars to develop a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down, underwater, on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures ranging from below freezing to 300 C. The Russians used a pencil.

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Some news on Russia

Best of luck to them!

And I think Russia is leading in the "can you come up with a reason for the existence of the ISS?" stakes, top marks!

I think the ISS should be in orbit around the moon or somthing, look at todays news, not "the ISS has made an amazing discovery!' no its the ISS astronauts might have to evacuate bescause they have nearly run out of food!

Wheres Burt? Whats he up these days?

Your right into this arn't you codeman

I think it reflects a deeper success in thinking that Russia is still the other big player in space travel. I wonder why they never made it to the moon. I watched 'the right stuff' the other night. What an amazing story, the mercury catch up programme, then Apollo, what happened Russia?

A overveiw of the Salyut space stations.
and
Mir

Overveiw of both from PBS

The issue of safety would be my oinly qualification.

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Competition in space discovery could be productive and lead to better space science.

However better space science was not the primary goal of the the race to the Moon in the 1960s.

I hope the race to Mars is not part of a return to the Cold War.

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Wish George War Bush didn't spend all that money in Iraq & spent it on something more useful, like NASA.

Six-seat spacecraft top of Russian space plan

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