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Old 01-November-2006, 08:44 PM
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Speaking of the de-orbit fixture... my understanding was they would attach a simple mechanical fixture now, without any rocket motor/fuel tanks/controls, just a fixture to attach all that stuff later (i.e. 2025-2030 timeframe), and that a CaLV would be used in that timeframe to bring up the rest of it (rocket/fuel/controls/etc.)

One thing that I thought was amazing (while watching NASA-TV) was, that they are going to attempt a PC board replacement inside a module that was not designed to be serviced in space. 115 individual non-captive screws! PCB extraction! and PCB insertion! Good Luck, I say. I hope it really *IS* the power supply board that is bad, inside the module.

It's hard enough putting one of these modules together on-the-bench in a laborotory/manufacturing floor environment, but in space??? You guys are wild-men!! I don't envy the astronaut that draws that assignment.
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I thought it would be totally unlikely that such a think could be dangerous to deorbit. I know MIR had a quite different structure and would be totally unstabel on a reentry, and i don't think they considered danger back then - ok, maybe they were well aware of exactly where it would be burned up.

BTW: In case we need to repair a telescope or something in the future (ISS for that matter), will the CEV be designed so that it will be available to repair such things? OK, i know it is an important matter to design the telescopes after the CEV and not the other way around, but what about the ISS (sorry for changing subject partly).

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Well, i was aware of that, but talking about 2013
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I think that if it doesn't add too much to cost and complexity, it's best to add a docking interface now that we're already have a craft up there working on Hubble, yes even humans around. What we do now can't be something desperately needing to be done in the future. I don't think it's idiotic at all, but then again I'm not Griffin. And more importantly, I don't have all details or knowledge.
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Well, i was aware of that, but talking about 2013
So I misunderstood what you said.
As far as I know there are no current plans when, how and if at all, to deorbit Hubble. They just want to be prepared I guess.
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I hear also that the Hubble servicing mission may turn out to be Atlantis' last hoorah, in which case it's a great way to finish.

The installation of the capture mechanism is interesting - it vastly increases to possiblility of future robotic servicing missions in my eyes.
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In fact what they want is to build another pair of Hubbles in the future and link the 3 of them up in orbit by means of these docking things, making a VLST in orbit
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I hear also that the Hubble servicing mission may turn out to be Atlantis' last hoorah, in which case it's a great way to finish.
I can only agree.

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What mission are you talking about? I am not sure i have heard about that mission in case it is a particular mission you are talking about...
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In fact what they want is to build another pair of Hubbles in the future and link the 3 of them up in orbit by means of these docking things, making a VLST in orbit
What mission are you talking about? I am not sure i have heard about that mission in case it is a particular mission you are talking about...
I think Nicolas was making a joke, judging by the wink smiley.
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Hehe. You know, the danish humor is probably the stangest in all of Europe, and i guess we often have problems understanding the english humor Or maybe the fact that english is only my second language yet. But one day i will hopefully catch up with the english humor and maybe english could turn into my prefered language - for one reason or another i have often hoped that this day would come
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It was just a fantasy of mine. I don't know whether there would be a lot of gain of simply connecting 3 hubbles. Possibly it's better to have them as a constellation, so they can more easily be a bit more spread (so the effective diameter is larger than when they're really close together in a fixed connection). Of course, it would be a trick in stabilizing them relative to each other. And then there's the huge deploy and maintenance costs of a fleet of 3 hubbles...
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It was just a fantasy of mine. I don't know whether there would be a lot of gain of simply connecting 3 hubbles. Possibly it's better to have them as a constellation, so they can more easily be a bit more spread (so the effective diameter is larger than when they're really close together in a fixed connection). Of course, it would be a trick in stabilizing them relative to each other. And then there's the huge deploy and maintenance costs of a fleet of 3 hubbles...
Not to forget that, when attached to each other at their aft, they would look in different directions...
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If you'd connect them with a bar, that larger-than-life problem becomes somehwat less of a show stopper
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larger-than-life? What do the Backstreet Boys have to do with hubble?
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I want Hubble back for good.


(no I don't, I want more newer better larger scopes)
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I find that connection with a bar makes a lot of problems seem less important...
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Atlantis to fly final Hubble servicing mission

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Shuttle Atlantis has been handed a flagship finale, following the confirmation that she will now be the orbiter that will now conduct the Hubble Space Telescope servicing mission, with the launch date slipping to September 11, 2008.
Discovery will be ready to fly the rescue mission from Pad 39B.
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september 11. I love it when NASA gives the CT crowd a field day.
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september 11. I love it when NASA gives the CT crowd a field day.
At some point, hopefully while I'm mentally sound enough to enjoy the sight, I'll live to see September 11th as just another day on the calendar. Just like December 7th was nothing more to me than the day Howard County moved up to the 2006 International Codes.
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STS-125 - allowing more science via Hubble

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It may be at least 18 months away, but the main focus of space mission attention is already being placed on the 2008 flagship shuttle flight of STS-125, which will see Atlantis and her crew carry out the final servicing mission on the Hubble Space Telescope.

A science-based overview of the instruments that will be upgraded on the telescope, given by Professor G