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Old 10-May-2005, 05:05 PM
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NASA Resumes Work on Shuttle Flight to Hubble

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NASA's new chief, Michael D. Griffin, has told the Hubble servicing team at the Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland to resume preparations for a possible shuttle flight to upgrade the orbiting observatory. Although a decision on returning astronauts to Hubble won't be made until after at least two successful shuttle missions to the International Space Station, the telescope's prospects look better now than they have at any time since Griffin's predecessor, Sean O'Keefe, abruptly canceled Hubble servicing in January 2004 — a decision that outraged astronomers, key members of Congress, and the public.
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Old 10-May-2005, 05:48 PM
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Old 10-May-2005, 06:22 PM
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Please don't run me out on a rail, but how much further scientific value can we expect to get from Hubble? I know that it was the wonder of its day, and gets images with much better resolution than earth-bound telescopes. However, it seems that it has accomplished much of what it was designed to do.

It seems to me that it is time to replace the old guy with a bigger space scope with better optics, ccd's, etc. Am I way off-base on this?
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Please don't run me out on a rail, but how much further scientific value can we expect to get from Hubble? I know that it was the wonder of its day, and gets images with much better resolution than earth-bound telescopes. However, it seems that it has accomplished much of what it was designed to do.

It seems to me that it is time to replace the old guy with a bigger space scope with better optics, ccd's, etc. Am I way off-base on this?
Probably Note the present tense "gets images". There is nothing in serious development which equals the quality of HST imaging in visible light (and as far as I know that includes adaptive-optics systems, which may get superior central peaks but with fluffy and time-variable wings which are, so far, the bane of sensitive work on objects such as quasar host galaxies). It may have done what it was designed to do, but it has done far more and continues to do so.

It sounds sensible to replace it with a larger, higher-resolution optical telescope (which, note, JWST is not). However, such a thing is not on the table, NASA internal politics being what it is. The choice for people writing their congressfolk seems to be either service HST, push for something lik the Hubble Origins Probe which is a similar (but unaberrated) telescope with better detectors, or... nothing.

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The official date of Hubble's retirement should be the day after it finishes imaging the entirety of known visible space. Then its existence will be superfluous...but not before.
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Please don't run me out on a rail either, but I think any shuttle mission sent to hubble should be for the express purpose of bringing the old boy home. It deserves to be in the Air & Space museum alongside the X-1, the Wright Flyer, and other icons of our advancement over the last century. Hubble has done so much to advance our understanding of the cosmos that I feel letting it burn up in reentry would take something special and awesome away from future generations. My kids deserve to have the chance to look upon it in wonder. Call me sentimental.

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Old 11-May-2005, 02:31 PM
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That's good. Looks like NASA finally got an okay boss.

JWST will replace HST but it's not ready yet. Might as well keep it going while we can. You know any servicing mission will be worth it in the data it gains.
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The official date of Hubble's retirement should be the day after it finishes imaging the entirety of known visible space. Then its existence will be superfluous...but not before.
Where does Hubble stand in this? What percentage of the deep sky has been imaged?
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Old 11-May-2005, 02:46 PM
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I would love to see Hubble remain operational, but I question whether it is worth it. Somewhere I saw that the price tag on servicing Hubble would be the better part of a billion dollars. There is a lot of science that could be done with that much money, but it is not necessarily astronomy.
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Please don't run me out on a rail either, but I think any shuttle mission sent to hubble should be for the express purpose of bringing the old boy home. It deserves to be in the Air & Space museum alongside the X-1, the Wright Flyer, and other icons of our advancement over the last century. Hubble has done so much to advance our understanding of the cosmos that I feel letting it burn up in reentry would take something special and awesome away from future generations. My kids deserve to have the chance to look upon it in wonder. Call me sentimental.
It's a nice idea, but in the current, safety-first environment, it's not going to happen.

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JWST will replace HST but it's not ready yet.
Contrary to press releases, JWST is an infrared telescope, more a replacement for Spitzer than for Hubble. I don't think there's anything resembling a true replacement for Hubble on the boards.

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Where does Hubble stand in this? What percentage of the deep sky has been imaged?
Are we talking about taking Hubble Deep Field images of the entire sky? Considering that one of those takes ten days of observing time (not telescope time), that could take a while....
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Looks like they are going to rescue the Hubble!
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Senate subcommittee adds funding for Hubble servicing mission

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Good news! Griffin is the best Administrator we have had in a long while.
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Good news! Griffin is the best Administrator we have had in a long while.
Unfortunately, that's not much of a compliment.
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Give the guy a chance. He isn't like Goldin--who gives everyone a piece just to keep them quiet.

Goldin was like a bad father who will give his five year old a piece of candy anytime they want it.

Griff is the good father who won't let you have the candy--but insists that you wait until you have a full meal. Once we have larger rockets flying--then you will really see improvement in all kinds of capabilities.

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My reply was intended as a dig toward some of the recent administrators, not toward Griffin. I agree that he seems to be doing a very good job so far.
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Here's an article from today's Boulder, Colorado Daily Camera.
http://www.dailycamera.com/bdc/scien...876604,00.html

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Servicing the Hubble:
Shuttle mission plans refined


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Preparations for a shuttle mission to upgrade and repair the Hubble Space Telescope in late 2007 or early 2008 are picking up steam as engineers map out the details of a five-spacewalk flight designed to keep the venerable observatory alive and well through at least 2013.

Servicing Mission 4, canceled by former NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe in January 2004, is expected to be officially reinstated by current Administrator Mike Griffin if the next shuttle mission, STS-121, goes smoothly and if ongoing analyses show the flight can be conducted in relative safety.

"For any given single mission, I would say that the Hubble servicing represents the highest priority utilization of a single shuttle mission that I can conceive," Griffin said in a recent interview. "Because servicing the Hubble is something only the shuttle can do, it's only one flight and is, therefore, I think a very high agency priority if we can do it technically."
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They also are considering a repair job that could restore the Space Telescope Imaging Spectrograph to operation. The instrument was shut down in 2004 when a power supply failed. It now appears installation of a single electronic "card" could restore one of the instrument's two redundant operating systems to life.
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This is fantastic news ! The contribution the Hubble has made to astronomy is immeasurable, and it deserves to have its mission extended, IMO.
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Great! With every HST image release for the past year I've been increasingly sobered by the thought of its premature death...
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