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Bangalore/Thiruvananthapuram: A day after its flawless launch, India's Chandrayaan-1 steadily made its journey to the moon after the first orbit-raising manoeuvre of the lunar spacecraft was today successfully performed by scientists.

Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) said the satellite's health was normal and it was on the right track.

In the first of the five orbit raising manoeuvres, today's operation was performed at 0900 hours when the satellite's 440 Newton Liquid Engine was fired for about 18 minutes by commanding the spacecraft from Spacecraft Control Centre (SCC) at ISRO Telemetry, Tracking and Command Network (ISTRAC) in Bangalore.
Thiruvananthapuram. Cool name. It's the capital of the state of Kerala.

There's a nice diagram of the burn sequence, though it doesn't have the dates or times:
ISRO: Chandryaan-1 Mission: Mission Profile :: Mission Sequence

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I wish India would focus on its overpopulation and social injustices (especially to its "untouchables") issues before going to the Moon.
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O yes? How would you fix overpopulation then?

Edit: On second thoughts, best not to hijack this thread. Could you start another one please, Antares7? I'd love to discuss this with you...

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OK. I see we have to transfer our audio countdown technology to India. It's a tip all you amateur counterdowners can use, too. I learned it in a studio TV control room.

This video of the launch (YouTube video, about 30 seconds) shows a countdown clock, with resolution in thousandths of a second (well, to the grosser resolution of slower video frames), with an audio countdown in seconds.

Now, maybe it was simply edited wrong. It might have been produced by an amateur who didn't know better, but a professional video editor should know how to do countdowns. And, maybe the anounced countdown was for liftoff, and the timer was for ignition. I don't know. I can think of a dozen excuses. (This is just for fun.) So, maybe ISRO already knows this. But... maybe the ISRO announcer was unprepared, or overly excited.

When the clock turns over, say, from 4.000 to 3.999, an untrained brain, seeing the units digit change, thinks that is the time to say, "3." But it's not. That's when one should say, "4."

Very common error. I've seen it a thousand times.

If you don't say it right, when the clock goes from 1.000 to 0.999, you wind up announcing, "0!" while in reality there is still a long second to go before actual zero is reached. If anyone is actually taking action on your words (I doubt it, in the professional rocket-launching business), they might do so too early.

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3.000 -> 2.999 / "3"
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0.000 -> +0.001 / "0"
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I wish India would focus on its overpopulation and social injustices (especially to its "untouchables") issues before going to the Moon.
Coulda said much the same about the US in the 50's. And Russia & China...well...less said, the better.

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Beautiful pic of the launch, xCygon!
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Apogee: 74,715 Km
Perigee: 336 Km
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October 26 press release: Chandrayaan-1 enters Deep Space (from ISRO Press Releases)

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Chandrayaan-1 spacecraft has entered deep space after crossing the 150,000 km (one and a half lakh km) distance mark from the Earth. This happened after the successful completion of the spacecraft’s third orbit raising manoeuvre today (October 26, 2008) morning.

During this manoeuvre which was initiated at 07:08 IST, the spacecraft’s 440 Newton liquid engine was fired for about nine and a half minutes. With this, Chandrayaan-1 entered a much higher elliptical orbit around the Earth. The apogee (farthest point to Earth) of this orbit lies at 164,600 km while the perigee (nearest point to Earth) is at 348 km. In this orbit, Chandrayaan-1 takes about 73 hours to go round the Earth once.
I guess that was Earth Burn (EBN) 3, though a mission sequence diagram says the result would be 200 000 km apogee. Maybe that was old info. I'll go with the news.

Up next in a couple of days, when Chandrayaan 1 loops back near Earth, is EBN4 which might yield roughly a quarter-million km apogee, and then, in some more days, EBN5 to head to the Moon.
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Perigee: 465 Km
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The Indian lunar probe Chandrayaan-1 is slowly making its way to the Moon; it’ll be another week before it gets there. In the meantime, the ISRO (Indian Space Research Organization) has been testing the cameras by taking images of the Earth.
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Edit: Also, Planetary Society Weblog: On its way to the Moon, Chandrayaan-1 photographs Earth, but flips the photo
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black and white? not colored?

still nice, and amazing
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The Terrain Mapping Camera (TMC) is a CCD camera with 5 m resolution and a 40 km swath in the panchromatic band and will be used to produce a high-resolution map of the Moon. [...] The camera works in the visible region of the electromagnetic spectrum and captures black and white stereo images.
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ISRO November 4 press release: Chandrayaan-1 enters Lunar Transfer Trajectory (from ISRO Press Releases)

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The fifth and final orbit raising manoeuvre of Chandrayaan-1 spacecraft was successfully carried out today (November 4, 2008) morning at 04:56 am IST. During this manoeuvre, the spacecraft’s 440 Newton liquid engine was fired for about two and a half minutes. With this, Chandrayaan-1 entered the Lunar Transfer Trajectory with an apogee (farthest point to Earth) of about 380,000 km (three lakh eighty thousand km).

[...] Chandrayaan-1 will approach the Moon on November 8, 2008 and the spacecraft’s liquid engine will be fired again to insert the spacecraft into lunar orbit.
Edit: Also, Planetary Society Weblog: Chandrayaan-1 to enter lunar orbit on November 8 and BA Blog: It’s a new day… for Chandrayaan-1
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Chandrayaan-1 will approach the Moon on November 8, 2008 and the spacecraft’s liquid engine will be fired again to insert the spacecraft into lunar orbit.
Must be close now.
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On Chandrayaan-1 s Terrain Mapping Camera
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The Terrain Mapping Camera (TMC) on-board Chandrayaan-1 is a unique demonstration of space scientists’ ingenuity. It will be able to produce a 3D atlas of the moon using a single camera.
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“It is due to the innovative design of the camera,” Dr. Kumar said. “A set of two mirrors in the camera are used to provide two angles apart from the nadir [view from the top] view.”
Really smart idea I think, but is the article correct? Has anyone else flown a 3D camera in space before? 01101001?
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Really smart idea I think, but is the article correct? Has anyone else flown a 3D camera in space before?
I don't recall a design like that -- but I don't recall much about all the cameras that have been on spacecraft. Certainly we've had 3D imaging, but the systems I can recall used two cameras, or a single camera on two different passes.

This design is different in that there is one camera with 3 separate viewing ports and mirrors to guide the light in.
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I don't recall a design like that -- but I don't recall much about all the cameras that have been on spacecraft. Certainly we've had 3D imaging, but the systems I can recall used two cameras, or a single camera on two different passes.

This design is different in that there is one camera with 3 separate viewing ports and mirrors to guide the light in.
Ah, thanks. So it might be the first 3D camera at least. That's pretty cool. I was looking at the graphic in that article, seemed like a smart design. Thanks.
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Ah, thanks. So it might be the first 3D camera at least. That's pretty cool. I was looking at the graphic in that article, seemed like a smart design. Thanks.
ISRO has stereo imaging earth observation satellites, but I think they use two cameras. Here it is achieved by single camera looking at a single spot 3 times in a orbit during at different angles.
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Here it is achieved by single camera looking at a single spot 3 times in a orbit during at different angles.
Yeah, I saw that. Same spot, three different angles, three different times (sequentially). It'll take some nifty software work to sort out! But I'm sure they're used to that. Interesting design.
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I don't recall a design like that -- but I don't recall much about all the cameras that have been on spacecraft. Certainly we've had 3D imaging, but the systems I can recall used two cameras, or a single camera on two different passes.

This design is different in that there is one camera with 3 separate viewing ports and mirrors to guide the light in.

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As 01101001 pointed out it uses two cameras to produce the 3D images.

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Must be close now.
The burn is scheduled at 17:30 IST (1200 UTC) Nov 8.
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Seem comparatively similar to the HRSC on MEX.
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There is a lot of Apollo 3D shots, if you take the time to look at the Apollo archive. Also, because of settling during landing that caused a shift in position, stereographic shots were taken with Luna 9.
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And we are there. Chandrayaan enters lunar orbit.

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According to the video on the ISRO website, the flight plan is for progressively higher earth orbits, until one that intersects with the Moon's orbit. Then a transfer to a wide Moon orbit, which is then contracted down to a circular polar one. Is this a series of planetary fly-bys, to conserve fuel or is it to allow opportunities for correction, 'fine-tuning' as each new orbit is reached?
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Answering my own Q, according to a recent newspaper profile of G Madhavan Nair, the ISRO Chairman (I've lost the paper, sorry!), he decided only two months ago to change the flight plan, from a direct, Apollo-like course direct into Moon orbit, to the actual incremental one, to allow fine tuning of the direction. Full marks for such a redundant design that this was possible, no marks for foresight.

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Madhavan Nair, the ISRO Chairman,decided only two months ago to change the flight plan, from a direct, Apollo-like course direct into Moon orbit, to the actual incremental one, to allow fine tuning of the direction. Full marks for such a redundant design that this was possible, no marks for foresight.
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Congrats For making the Chandrayaan to enter the Lunar orbit !!
For the first time its time to talk perilune and apolune!!

As far as above statemenent of Madhavan Nair goes I think, India does not have rocket to put satellite in Apollo like orbit. Proof India does not have ICBM's ;-)
Mr Nair did you came to know about this only two months before launch???
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Proof India does not have ICBM's...
I'm glad you mentioned ICBMs. Because I went looking. You're technically correct:
Agni, an Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile
Surya, an ICBM under development

Only technically.

Anyway, that isn't why I'm glad. While investigating, I found this:
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In May 2008 Indian scientists announced they had developed and patented a path-breaking technology increases the range of missiles and satellite launch vehicles by at least 40%.The enhanced range is made possible by adding a special-purpose coating of chromium based material to a rocket's blunt nose cone. The material acts as a reactive-ablative coating that forms a thin low density gaseous layer at the tip of the rocket as it approaches hypersonic speeds; this super-heated gas layer reduces drag by 47% (at mach 7-8), thereby allowing range enhancements at least 40%
That's huge!

This method seems conceptually similar to a rumour I'd read about: many years ago the Russians discovered a way of reducing high velocity drag by firing lasers into the air-stream. I'm preparing a thread as we speak. I bet you all can't wait...
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