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Old 26-July-2007, 09:53 PM
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NASA says it has found wires which may have been deliberately cut on computers bound for the international space station.
The banner on the front page, anyone know anything more?
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I blame Canada.

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NASA also revealed that it had discovered the apparent sabotage of a noncritical component of the International Space Station due to be carried up by the shuttle. It launched an investigation after finding cut wires in a piece of computer equipment intended to transfer data from station sensors to the ground, the agency said.
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I blame Canada.

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Nope. I blame a NASA subcontractor.

Orlando Florida Channel 6 TV: Space Worker Accused Of Sabotage

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A space program worker deliberately damaged a computer that is supposed to fly aboard shuttle Endeavour in less than two weeks, an act of sabotage that was caught before the equipment was loaded onto the spaceship, NASA said on Thursday.

The unidentified employee, who works for a NASA subcontractor, cut wires inside the computer that is supposed to be delivered to the International Space Station by Endeavour, said Bill Gerstenmaier, NASA's space operations chief. The worker also damaged a similar computer that was not meant to fly to space.
Houston Texas Chronicle: NASA investigates possible sabotage of recorder for lab

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NASA said today it is investigating suspected sabotage of a recorder placed on the shuttle Endeavour for delivery to the space station where it will track physical stresses on the orbiting lab.

The recorder, which does not play a role in protecting astronauts or the space station, was damaged by an unidentified person or persons and will be repaired.
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That will be one costly act of sabotage for that person, and I wonder how he'll ever find a job again.
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I wonder, would this fall under the PATRIOT act?
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"Breaking" news indeed.

This is just crazy.
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That will be one costly act of sabotage for that person, and I wonder how he'll ever find a job again.
According to his resume, he has a lot of experience with "cutting-edge" technology
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According to his resume, he has a lot of experience with "cutting-edge" technology
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070726/...space_sabotage


CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - A space program worker deliberately damaged a computer that is supposed to fly aboard shuttle Endeavour in less than two weeks, an act of sabotage that was caught before the equipment was loaded onto the spaceship, NASA said Thursday.


The unidentified employee, who works for a NASA subcontractor, cut wires inside the computer that is supposed to be delivered to the international space station by Endeavour, officials said...........()


What would be the motive for this supossedly internal sabotage ???
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Probably one of those stupid things you have to do to reset the BIOS password.
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What would be the motive for this supossedly internal sabotage ???
What would be the reason for posting it in Conspiracy Theories?

What is your conspiracy?

(News story already being discussed in topic: CNN breaking news.)
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What I don't understand is why anyone want to sabotage a broken hunk of junk anyway?

Maybe he's part of a conspiracy to get something actually useful and spaceworthy up there... The cur!
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Like I said in the other thread, maybe he's part of a conspiracy to get the ISS canned and something actually useful and spaceworthy up there instead...
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Probably one of those stupid things you have to do to reset the BIOS password.
You know you've got problems when the first page of the instruction manual reads:

Instructions for resetting BIOS password.
Tools needed: Screwdriver (size 2), wire cutter, Wire-Nut® x4
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Like I said in the other thread, maybe he's part of a conspiracy to get the ISS canned and something actually useful and spaceworthy up there instead...
well NASA has other bad news today.
http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/07/
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What would be the reason for posting it in Conspiracy Theories?

What is your conspiracy?

(News story already being discussed in topic: CNN breaking news.)
He was a member of the freemasons, the illuminati...
This not a conspiracy now but but probably grow into one or used for one already out there.
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I think Orion posted this as an FYI, that's all

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In Conspiracy Theories. And, I repeat: what is the conspiracy theory? Who is the group that is conspiring? Why is this topic here? There are other subforums for space news.
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There are other subforums for space news.

Since no (serious) conspiracy claim has been made, moving...
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I posted this by mistake in CT.
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I posted this by mistake in CT.
I was hoping so. Thanks. Well, meanwhile, it's been fixed with a move to Space Exploration.

I see in the news now, articles titled such as: NASA jolted by boozing astronauts, sabotage.

I can't wait until they get to the ultimate love-drunken saboteur headlines: "Today, reports are that the diaper-wearing NASA former-astronaut was highly intoxicated when she cut the wires on the data recorder equipment. NASA to launch committee investigation."
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Almost, but not quite, what Jay Leno's riff on it tonight.

He didn't mention the sabotage, but he did mention something about drunk astronauts wearing diapers on their heads. . . . and that the name Kennedy was naturally involved in this. . .
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They need to go over that computer with a fine-tooth comb before they launch it. The cut wires may not be the only part that was sabotaged.
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What would be the motive for this supossedly internal sabotage ???
It could be politically motivated. Some people don't like the scientific truths NASA discovers, regarding climate change for example.
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I can't wait until they get to the ultimate love-drunken saboteur headlines [...]
We're getting there.

ABC News: Exclusive: Lisa Nowak Not Drunk in Space, Lawyer Says
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I was just at the NASA Shuttle Page.

They are showing that the finger pointing has begun.
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