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Planetary Society Weblog: Phoenix digs into the dirt
It's about the same as my report: there's a hole, there's a scoopful, there's no dump in view.
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APOD has a nicer image of the area underneath.
I am curious about why there is so much debris on the landing leg's piston rod. Could the rocket exhaust heated the ice to water where it refroze on the leg?
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Scoop o' colored soil:
University of Arizona: NASA'S Phoenix Scoops Up Martian Soil ![]() Quote:
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Is that sloppy lathe-work I see on this rod?
http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/image...ID=1602&cID=28 What is this thing? |
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I'd rather go with residual fuel that was discharged from the lander in the post landing sequence. I don't know where I can find where the tanks exhausts are in relationship to the lander's leg but that would be My first thought.
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Edit: According to an MSNBC article, the post-landing venting was helium and hydrazine, since the hydrazine could have frozen and cracked lines. (The simulation video shows the venting as horizontal.) Edit: On the other hand... Matthew B. Travis Space-exploration Blog reports: Quote:
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Monday morning's (noonish) media telecon briefing is available in audio: Mars Phoenix Briefing, Monday June 2 (MP3).
Peter Smith: In TEGA test, the backup ion-source seems to perform as well as the primary. It looks like they have that workaround. Ray Arvidson: Did a dig just above Yeti (first touch) and dumped (to the left I think). Evaluating where to go next, will do pre-samples near the test dig to get soil into labs to intercompare results from similar. (And are white things ice or salt?) Pat Woyta (phonetic): Images. Hole near Yeti. Scoopful. See streak of white material. Ice? Salt? White material is in scoop hole, too. (Images) Q&A First delivery to instrument? Sol 9. Need to look at downlink tonight: TEGA ready, cover off, all ready? Print (yeti): can you explain if you expected to see a footprint? (!!!?!?!?) It's just by coincidence. No conspiracy. OK. We don't have time for conspiracies! Today? Big observation is stereo images of Holy Cow, baseline to detect possible changes. White stuff, retro rocket blew away soil. High temperature? Any pitting on slab? Melting? Good question. Snow Queen has pits. Science team wonders if thrusters did it, or if thrusters removed a rock to reveal hole. No pits on Holy Cow. Thrusters hot, but came down quickly. Mostly probably just blew material around. Holy Cow will be observed at different times with different light to gauge texture.
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Short circuit? Covered in opening. Ionization chamber had two filaments. Disconnected shorted filament and used second and it appears safe on Earth tests. Tried on Phoenix and got same sensitivity. Looks good.
Top soil layer very loose? Expected? Pretty much. Weakly altered basaltic sand with dust. Slightly duricrust. It's crusty in scoop images. And there's white stuff. Strength of soil? Projections? Simulated what we expect. Telemetry of scooping will tell us a lot. Haven't looked at it yet. Can compare with practice on Earth. Looks crushable, pushable and retains shape. Easily broken. Cemented garden soil. Breaks apart. Not really strong. Not totally loose. In between. 1) Duricrust? Yes. 2) What does shorted filament do? [Standard mass-spec lecture # 1] We have a backup. TEGA samples at 9, 10, so how soon for results? Not as fast as we'd like. 4-day process, not necessarily contiguous, done in stages. [Standard TEGA-specifics lecture #1] Veterans of Viking? Ray Arvidson. I can hardly remember. Memory hazy. Timing's about the same for length of instrument return results. With red-blue anaglyph glasses looking at trench. Layering? How does the picture give confidence that soil will not collapse and you get good layers? Layering is from dent arm made. Artifact of digging. Material maintains slope, so good for big trench. Cohesive. Maybe like trenches rovers can make. Will image dump site to check pile. 1) TEGA: Initial filament ever back or gone for good? Any redundancy left? 2) Short causer going to stay put and not cause more problems? Can try to shake particle loose, by slamming a nearby solenoid valve. [Yes! "Just whack it!" --01101001] Describe practice dig. First touch. Test dig. Several cm. Dumped from 50 cm where arm cannot dig. All successful. Lining up 3 sample areas, for 3 instruments, near test dig site. Earliest tomorrow-ish.
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TEGA or MECA instrument first? Decision made. TEGA, as in original plan.
Website says white material might be ice or salt. Expected? Implications? Could be salt like magnesium sulphate. Or Kieserite. Right tone. Maybe it's what makes soil cohesive. Or maybe it's ice. TEGA will tell. They decompose at different temperatures. Phoenix is in ejecta field, and probably involved fluid from Heimdall. Remains to be seen. Could be salt deposit ejecta. Too much salt for life on Mars? Haven't read that new paper. Can't comment. King's Horse first target for dig? King of Hearts. No... Knave of Hearts turned out to be a bit too far away for good sample. Probably move to right of test dig. Will keep discussing. Want 3 samples from same materials to compare instruments. Names? Baby, Mama, Papa Bear. Maybe... Official? OK, that's official. Extremes of temp? Means? Change with height? -30C to -80C. It's cold. Gets colder as you move away from ground. Afternoon, temperature readings go a little nuts, rapid change, probably thermals from surface. Standing there, your head 20 C cooler than feet. 4-5 sols for TEGA. One tiny sample or multiple? Each oven does sample for 4-5 days. Same sample.
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1) 3 Bears? Where? My rock map doesn't show. [This guy is clueless; the digs were just named before his ears.] 2) When know if water? 1) Still defining dig locations of 3 Bears: combo of engineering and science requirements. 2) More about when Eureka moment for calorimeter results. After stage 4 probably. Several days.
[Wow, they had a lot of questions stored up.] If it's ice, surprised? About what we expected from orbiting data. Fits our models. Kieserite? [Explains it's Magnesium Sulphate with water and how it's formed.] Peter, any exchanges with predecessor on MPL? He was interested in different terrain. Haven't interacted. Invited to landing but didn't come. Plan to. Color of Holy Cow? In darkness? Will image at different times. Won't get dark. Sun doesn't go down. But shadow may help the arm camera LED lighting illuminate color. End. Yay.
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Planetary Society Weblog: Report on Phoenix Sol 7 activities: Dig and Dump: more elegant coverage of the briefing above.
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Sol 8 Raw Images
I see a bunch of images of Holy Cow. They're all upside down of course. (The image viewer needs an invert button. I'm just too lazy to save each inverted image to my computer and then go back and invert them all.) Well, they did threaten to image it all day with different sun angles. Nice composition of scoop and flag and DVD. It's good to see the scoop a little dirty. ![]() Surely, more images are coming. So far 44. Edit, much later, after images in: Most of the images were of ground, maybe surveying next potential dig sites. In the end, they didn't take as many images of Holy Cow as I thought they might.
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Looking for report or transcript of the Tuesday briefing...
Apparently there was none. At JPL Phoenix Mission News, I see Monday June 2 audio MP3 available and a notice of one coming up on Wednesday June 4. Briefing Wednesday is on NASA TV Media Channel June 4, Wednesday 2 p.m. [EDT] - Phoenix Mars Lander Mission Update - JPL/Tucson Edit: come on, Phoenix people... Your message is not consistent across sites. NASA Phoenix News says: Quote:
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At long last, the photographic evidence: Phoenix takes a dump:
JPL Phoenix Mission News: Scoopful of Martian Soil After Release (flicker animation of before and after)
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Phoenix Twitter gives a location for audio of the June 3 briefing.
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Maybe when I can listen on the phone for a half hour I'll consume the 800-number. I checked the first minute: the June 3 briefing is there.
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Woohoo. The June 3 briefing audio (56 Mbyte MP3) is on the Web now, at the location Phoenix Twitter mentioned. It says "Transcript coming soon" so I'll not be trying to summarize it here.
But... hah, just heard NASA was looking for the dump image after hole image and scoopful image, like I and others were. They didn't see the dump for sure until they made the blink animation.
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Planetary Society Weblog: Report on Phoenix Sol 8 activities: An extra day to learn how to use the arm summarizes the June 3 briefing.
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Planetary Society Weblog: Ustream chat Wed Jan 4 at 19:00 UT following Phoenix briefing on NASA TV
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I missed the spring, which image can you view it in?
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Image of Snow Queen, tableau ice-like rock first imaged, the one with dimples. It's around mid-picture by two stones.
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Anyway, something interesting is how deep that spring sank into the surface. The surface must be extremely powdery there, or there was a lot of mass in that spring. |
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Planetary Society Weblog: Report on Phoenix Sol 9 activities
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There are lots of cool images, like a robot-arm-reachability map and improved Holy Cow photo, and info there from the morning's briefing.
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NASA Phoenix Mission:
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