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Looks cool, but lets hope it works better than that nuclear power bomber they had back in the day.
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it cant be a space race. nobody can afford the funding levels Nasa would be able to harness in such a race. the article spins it more in the direction of Russia wanting to have a sell able in space nuclear reactor system ready for the day when they become needed. that way they would have a product to sell to others who do have the funds to go anywhere.
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Yet this was your first post...
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The last time it happened we got Apollo - can't be bad if it happens again. |
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Competition is a great driver of accomplishment ... it's human nature. If the Outer Space Treaty etc. hadn't happened, and the US and Russia had competed to claim the Moon etc., we'd have a lot more space infrastructure now. A new space race is the best thing that could happen for the various space programs...
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The end of the last space race effectively stalled development of manned spaceflight, The Russians are still using an upgraded version of the old Proton/Soyuz system and Ares 1-X was the first new vehicle from NASA in 30 YEARS. A little healthy competition is a good thing.
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I hope it's true, but I would not bet on it. I have always hoped for someone to build and fly a nuclear powered spacecraft out of Earth orbit. Since the US seems to want to stick to conventional chemical rockets for space operations beyond Earth; I think a little competition from someone who is willing to actually develop and fly, nuclear rocket technology, is a good thing.
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Alright, I guess I'm being sort of idealistic. I suppose a space race would help, even if it isn't really right. I do believe that the outer space treaty slowed down a lot of space development, even if it isn't obligatory like I brought up in the other thread.
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Oh, yeah, big help. Monkey no want banana until other monkey try to grab it. Monkey make face, growl, "No! MY BANANA!" Monkeys make noise, jump up and down, drop banana to chase each other.
Observer picks up banana, makes a few notes and walks away, smiling.
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If the world was the way it "should be", there's be six-and-a-half billion worlds, because everyone has different idea of how it "should be".
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As much as I enjoy competition and believe on some level it does drive some problems to solutions but a scientist is there for the information, the proof. If information was open wouldn't we come to conclusions faster? I am also aware of the idealism involved but shouldn't we all strive for perfection? I'm different .... trippin.
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I suggest we drop the discussion of the Space Race and focus on the OP. If people want to discuss the space race, please start a new thread.
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I believe nuclear propulsion does need to be seriously looked at for any manned missions to Mars; whether you're talking about direct nuclear propulsion or using a reactor to provide power for an ion drive anything that cuts the flight times has to be worthwhile looking at.
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From what I can tell, it looks like the actual development is to be on a 'competitive basis' with RSC Energia http://www.roscosmos.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=8002 (used Google to translate it, fwiw)
Does this indicate that the true 'type' of nuclear propulsion has yet to be determined? And that so far it is just 'talk' with nothing else really having been done, so to speak? How plausible to make it work with the 'concept design' of this -> http://www.energia.ru/english/energia/mars/concept.html - lose the solar and use nuclear instead maybe? Very interesting timing/location of the announcement, at an awards ceremony for literary contestants. Is that not unusual, or is it business-as-usual for Russia? Seems kinda unusual to me, but I see things as an American, of course. Alex |
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More on the engine here
http://www.bautforum.com/archive/index.php/t-46715.html Will Russia's Next Rocket be Nuclear? Drawings of the ship under the bimodal section here: http://nickd.freehostia.com/OrbiterV...vprojects.html http://nickd.freehostia.com/OrbiterVault/ovnews.html http://nickd.freehostia.com/OrbiterVault/mars.html http://nickd.freehostia.com/OrbiterV...downloads.html Other links from here: Advanced Future Space Propulsion |
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